And surely they've got some sort of justice system in place, even if, say, prisons aren't a viable option due to game mechanics and All Crimes Punishable By Death, some random dude taking that liberty is, well, murder.
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Just saying, the trope is All Crimes Are Equal , not All Crimes Punishable By Death.
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Greater-Scope Villain feels like it's being stretched here. The trope is "a threat that's more dangerous, affects more people, or a villainous presence that is more significant than the story's current Big Bad in the setting as a whole, but isn't causing the conflict of the immediate story "
A) Bethesda IS responsible for the threat as a whole, since it's their decision to not delay the game that jumpstarts Kayaba Akihiko's insane "plan".
B) Affects more people? No real evidence of that.
C) A more significant villainous presence? I don't really think they necessarily outrank the guy who is murdering people for talking back to him.
Kayaba Akihiko also makes them sound more neglectful than outright villainous (since it's more they don't care about bugs in general, not that they WANT to kill people), but YMMV on that.
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They're the Unwitting Instigator of Doom.
This is exactly the same kind of shoehorning that had people adding the parents from Frozen as the Bigger Bad.
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Someone added the entire conversation between Kirito and "Rucks" (the narrator program) from the beginning of Ep 2. I'm trimming it back off, because it seems to take up a lot of space without really adding anything worthwhile to the trope it's referencing. I added a note of the discussion here, in case anyone wants to dispute/discuss this.
The "Final Solution" thing wasn't a reference to the trope, it was a reference to Adolf Hitler's plan to exterminate anyone he saw as an undesirable. That's why the guy reading the book stopped reading, why Kirito was silently laughing, and why some random German guy said, "I vould like to hear more about zis Final Solution." Therefore, I think the "Final Solution" trope should be removed from the list.
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Yep, that entry is wrong. I've pulled it:
- Final Solution: The name of the suggested strategy for beating the first boss.
I see people pointing out for a lot of tropes that Kirito murdered Rosalia even though she was no threat to him. But she clearly thought she and her gang were a threat to him — in fact she thought they were quite superior — and then she tried to kill him (and even bullied her wary minions into attacking despite their best instincts). I'm assuming he's not an anomaly (as a target) and she would try to kill other players, and since that means killing people IRL, people who cannot escape the area, it makes sense to kill her before she can destroy other lives.
Not the typical hero stance, sure, and of course there's plenty of data points for Kirito being a sociopath, but I just don't think his decision to kill her is necessarily data for any antihero tropes. Batman and Vash the Stampede wouldn't kill her, but they're responsible for innumerable deaths because they refuse to take out people who are clearly going to kill again, even when there is no other legitimate way to restrain the baddies from doing so.
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