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ProtectorOfTheUniverse Since: Oct, 2018
Sep 7th 2022 at 8:50:09 PM •••

I just decided to visit this article after a couple of years of not doing so, and found out that all mentions of Peach's travel around the world are no longer a spoiler, even though it is supposed to be a "surprise" of sorts in-game, and it isn't even advertised at all in promotional material (besides maybe "The Art of Super Mario Odyssey", which also mentions the ending cutscene, whose mentions on this page are still on spoilers). The person who removed the spoilers regarding Peach's travel (who also removed several other spoilers) claims that "most of (them) are unnecessary or just awkwardly placed. There's no reason to spoiler out (...) things that even casual fans of the game will talk about without even thinking of calling it a spoiler". Peach's travel doesn't seem to count as such a thing to me, unlike Bowser's Kingdom, the Cloud Kingdom or the battles against Bowser. Sure, some of the outfits she used during it resurfaced on Mario Kart Tour, and several profile icons for the Switch featuring Peach wearing some of the outfits were released for Nintendo Switch Online's "Missions and Rewards", within "Super Mario Odyssey" collections, but so far that's it, no further mentions of Peach's travel around the world.

I'm not going to place back the spoilers, actually, I just need to know why Peach's travel in this game should or shouldn't be a spoiler in this page.

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MyFinalEdits (Ten years in the joint)
Sep 7th 2022 at 11:15:26 PM •••

I don't know much about the evolution of this page over the years, but I think the spoilers about Peach visiting the kingdoms were removed because the game is old enough for the information to be common knowledge, and less of an impactful surprise nowadays.

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ProtectorOfTheUniverse Since: Oct, 2018
Sep 18th 2022 at 9:47:01 AM •••

So, the thing with the user icons from Nintendo Switch Online's "Missions and Rewards" doesn't have much to do with it? Or does it?

MathsAngelicVersion Ambassador of Eurogames and Touhou Music Since: Mar, 2013
Ambassador of Eurogames and Touhou Music
Nov 3rd 2017 at 4:37:26 AM •••

This Bait-and-Switch example looks dubious to me:

  • Before the game's release, a number of early reviews promised the game would change the status quo. This is true to a point, as while Mario does finally attempt to ask for Peach's hand in marriage, him and Bowser fighting results in Peach rejecting both of them out of frustration, ultimately preserving the status quo. Edge Magazine in particular also promised a significant post-game role for Peach that would leave fans surprised, which turned out to be her simply showing up in the lands as an NPC alongside Tiara and handing out Moons.

If the status quo is ultimately preserved, how are the promises that the game would change the status quo "true to a point", and not outright lies?

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Arawn999 Since: Dec, 2013
Nov 3rd 2017 at 5:07:24 AM •••

If it's outright lies then that should be moved to the Trivia section. I think there's an appropriate trope for it.

MathsAngelicVersion Since: Mar, 2013
Nov 6th 2017 at 5:53:07 AM •••

The closest I can get is Never Trust a Trailer (which is not trivia).

Another lie (that has not been mentioned on the work's TV Tropes pages yet): The EDGE review also claims that "Peach, for her part, is no helpless damsel, either." They "forget" that her role in the main game is a textbook example of a helpless Damsel in Distress. Her role in the post-game is pretty far from "badass" too.

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ProtectorOfTheUniverse Since: Oct, 2018
Oct 19th 2018 at 11:09:30 AM •••

Yeah, that journey around the world Peach did was very lackluster and far from proactive. She just stands in a specific place within the kingdom (and if it's a hard-to-reach place, we never see her getting there at all), says something dull and uninteresting, almost Captain Obvious, when talking to Mario, gives him a Power Moon and hints about her next destination. Her outfits (most of them too flamboyant and tacky for a "girl who wants to explore the world", not to mention unnecessary) don't help either, making her seem (at least to me) like a "material girl". If Peach was playable at least, it would've been miles better.

TruBlu95 Since: Jul, 2015
Nov 2nd 2017 at 2:35:35 PM •••

So... Did anyone guess the Broodals had names before the game revealed them? I actually made up my own names for them. Who else did?

NoUsername i'm at the combination she and it Since: May, 2012
i'm at the combination she and it
Nov 1st 2017 at 6:00:11 PM •••

regarding spoilers: we should probably spoiler mark everything after the luncheon kingdom, since that's past what nintendo displays in previews. there's a lot of people adding unmarked spoilers and i think we should generally make sure we're being careful about that considering what a major game odyssey is

ADrago Since: Dec, 2015
Jan 12th 2017 at 11:45:35 PM •••

This entry was added to YMMV:

  • Expy: Mario's hat having eyeballs looks like something straight out of Yooka-Laylee.

I removed it because Expy is not YMMV. Though I do find it to be a dubious example. It seems like another case where someone notices vague similarities between characters and calls it an Expy.

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Arawn999 Since: Dec, 2013
Oct 30th 2017 at 9:39:35 PM •••

Yeah, Expies and Shout-Outs have to be deliberate.

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Pichu-kun ... Since: Jan, 2001
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Oct 30th 2017 at 9:04:44 PM •••

Pulled this example:

The sentences conflict each other, plus the link seems suspicious. It's a legit site, however many mainstream media outlets cited the news as "The theory about feathered T-rexes is dead" when it's more complicated than that (for example, one guess is that they had scaled feet but feathered bodies like birds).

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Arawn999 Since: Dec, 2013
Oct 30th 2017 at 9:38:51 PM •••

Odyssey's T. rex has pronated hands and is (according to some paleo-buffs) shrink-wrapped, so it's still a case.

WolfThunder Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at the moonlight. Since: Jun, 2013
Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at the moonlight.
Jun 21st 2017 at 11:16:34 AM •••

So, according to Nintendo, Mario doesn't possess enemies when he captures them, even though the fandom prefers to refer to it as "possessing". What trope does that count as?

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The_Cosmic_Troper Since: Apr, 2017
Jun 21st 2017 at 5:40:31 PM •••

That's strange.. it's close to possession still, so.. maybe a possession trope that's not quite possession? Maybe a forced Heel Face Turn?

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TheGreatUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
Jun 21st 2017 at 5:57:43 PM •••

Looks like more of an Insistent Terminology thing, because you know, hat puns. Still possession.

The_Cosmic_Troper Since: Apr, 2017
Jun 21st 2017 at 7:02:41 PM •••

True.. lol

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
Jun 15th 2017 at 3:41:47 PM •••

Okay, what is the title of the theme song and where are you guys getting your sources? I've seen 'Let's do the Odyssey', '1-Up Girl', and now 'Jump Up, Super Star.'

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Filraen Since: May, 2009
Jun 17th 2017 at 8:48:53 AM •••

It comes from the offficial Super Mario Odyssey japanese twitter:

ポリーン市長の趣味は歌うこと。この歌「Jump Up, Super Star!」も、ポリーン市長が歌っているんだとか!?

https://twitter.com/mario_odysseyJP/status/875264231506984961

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