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Hayati The lord of Jelly world! Since: Nov, 2009
The lord of Jelly world!
Mar 23rd 2018 at 10:26:43 AM •••

Due to OSRS becoming EXTREMELY more popular than RS 3, and having diverging points of lore (Raids, Dragon slayer 2, monkey madness 2), I'm thinking we should have a seperate page for the two, or seperate trope sections.

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legendaryweredragon Since: Apr, 2013
Mar 23rd 2018 at 10:54:56 AM •••

Is it actually more popular? I’m not sure if that’s true. And actually the lore hasn’t diverged that much. There actually are plans to add some of the stuff that has been added to OSRS to RS 3. If it keeps on diverging then maybe we should split the pages but for now I think it is fine.

DocJamore Since: Jul, 2014
Apr 23rd 2019 at 8:09:53 PM •••

I'd support creating a separate page for ORAS. There is a thread on the topic going on here.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15534861620A26850000

Edited by DocJamore
strawbs Since: Oct, 2014
Aug 18th 2020 at 10:42:00 AM •••

It’s diverge a fair bit now

PhoenixFalcon Arriving by goat doesn't violate school policy! Since: Nov, 2014
Arriving by goat doesn't violate school policy!
Mar 8th 2016 at 1:15:41 PM •••

Should there be a separate page for Old School Runescape and its tropes, or should this page be expanded to include Old School Runescape tropes as well?

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BlaiddSiocled Since: Jun, 2013
Apr 26th 2016 at 8:45:31 AM •••

I'd suggest making a separate page. It gets really confusing when you mix two games on one page, especially when parts are written with the assumption readers know which game is referenced.

Wolfgod Since: May, 2013
Apr 19th 2015 at 7:19:06 PM •••

Would it be beneficial for archiving purposes to create a recap page based on Quests, Miniquests, Events, and World Events? Sort of like how TV Show pages have episode recap pages.

TheFellMind The Fell Mind Since: Oct, 2010
The Fell Mind
Feb 7th 2013 at 9:15:38 PM •••

All of the examples I added under Karma Houdini are, to the present knowledge and storylines of the game, still currently true. If I should be listing it under YMMV, then fine, just move them there if that's what's necessary. They can be amended too, if and when changes happen in-game.

troacctid — the Rune Scape page is not your personal fiefdom. Please stop treating it like one.

Edited by TheFellMind
MicoolTNT Shadow of Legends Since: Apr, 2012
Shadow of Legends
Oct 30th 2012 at 12:35:42 AM •••

What the fuck? Why were my entries on the Botfinder General deleted?

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troacctid Since: Apr, 2010
Oct 30th 2012 at 10:58:40 AM •••

  1. A prosecuting argument in a courtroom is not a "Reason You Suck" Speech. "The Reason You Suck" Speech is directed at the target to convince them that, well, they suck—not at third party to convince them that the target is guilty of a crime, like in Botany Bay. It could be a List of Transgressions, except that there's only one transgression, so it's not.
  2. How is it an Author Filibuster? Everything he says is about the game. Nothing is reflecting Jagex's views on external issues. And the game doesn't stop so he can talk — the only way to visit Botany Bay is to choose to enter a side event with no functional rewards.
  3. Even if the examples were valid, it should be pretty clear that neither is the "sole purpose" of the character.

So the tropes don't fit.

Edited by troacctid Rhymes with "Protracted."
MicoolTNT Since: Apr, 2012
Oct 30th 2012 at 2:04:07 PM •••

Okay, maybe "The Reason You Suck" Speech doesn't really fit, but it's clearly an Author Filibuster.

Quote from page: "the plot stops dead in its tracks to give the author an opportunity to preach their message to the readers or audience,"

As far as I'm concerned, the bots and the Botfinder General are hardly related to the main plot of Rune Scape, so the plot does stop dead in its tracks while players are in that event. Then, the Botfinder General preaches his anti-bot message (which is Jagex's views on the bots) to the players.

"Everything he says is about the game." - Gameplay and Story Segregation; despite the Fourth Wall being rather unstable due to the nature of the game, Bots are clearly not canonical to the plot and the in-game world/lore of Rune Scape, so the Botfinder General is talking about a meta-issue, not an issue within the game's plot.

Oh, and your point that "the only way to visit Botany Bay is to choose to enter a side event with no functional rewards" doesn't mean that it's not an Author Filibuster, only that it's one you choose to view. It's still in the game, it still has little to do with the main plot (qualifying it as an "interruption" to the plot), and it's still a clear relaying of the author's views (Jagex's prohibition and dislike of bots), so it counts.

By your logic, tropes in a side-quest of a game like Mass Effect wouldn't count, because the player chooses to do those side-quests.

Edited by MicoolTNT "We can handle what is true, for we are already living it."
troacctid Since: Apr, 2010
Oct 30th 2012 at 7:05:13 PM •••

Well they do exist canonically in the game's universe as the "clockwork menace", breaking the law by using machines to work for them illegally. Or something like that. It's a silly bit of lore, true, but so is the sandwich lady.

And I would argue that the rules of the game are part of the game, and Botany Bay is still about the rules of the game. It's more of a He Knows About Timed Hits thing, if anything.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
MicoolTNT Since: Apr, 2012
Oct 30th 2012 at 10:00:42 PM •••

Screw this argument, I'm putting those tropes on YMMV.

"We can handle what is true, for we are already living it."
Kingault Since: Nov, 2010
Jul 11th 2012 at 7:05:58 AM •••

Were the Nightmare Fuel pages for this topic removed? Why?

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Telcontar MOD Since: Feb, 2012
Jul 11th 2012 at 7:32:22 AM •••

High Octane Nightmare Fuel as a subpage has been removed; everything is now merged into Nightmare Fuel. The NF subpage for this work is here.

That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
PiratePete Pirate Pete Since: Apr, 2013
Pirate Pete
Jan 30th 2012 at 1:29:59 PM •••

Should the "Nominal Importance" entry be changed? I can't see how the current entry relates to the trope, it looks like an error for No Fourth Wall or A Winner Is You. There are a few examples of Nominal Importance in Rune Scape though (Man, Guard, etc.).

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