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DanteVin [[Memes/DevilMayCry The Time Has Come]] Since: Jul, 2016
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Dec 26th 2023 at 6:18:24 AM •••

BTW, what happened to most examples here yesterday? Ideally, the cuts could've been done later, or the examples could've been trimmed instead of being cut wholesale.

I understand that plenty of them can be justifiably deleted/moved into the newly-created Characters.Granblue Fantasy Versus subpage without question, so as to minimize redundancy between the two tabs of a single work... But it seems like the deletion or clean-up effort of one troper was half-done or inconsistent, like some examples should've been left intact, or that some haven't been deleted yet when they should've been already deleted for consistency, amongst other concerns.

For example:

  • Power Trio had the Lowain trio example deleted (its in Lowain's folder now), but the Captain/Lyria/Vyrn trio is still here and created a badly-indented example. Both examples could've either been deleted here or kept here, not "delete one, keep the other one".
  • Cast from Hit Points only applies to Avatar Belial for now, but why was it still left intact here?

Additionally, there are also some things to consider.

  • A lot of the trope examples that were here (or are still here) are outdated, especially with the recent release of Rising. One could also say that plenty of tropes could still be listed here.
  • Even if a trope has been deleted for seemingly being character-specific, it's still possible to write an example that says it's a recurring or universal element. Charged Attack for example. I have played the game and can write a context to say that the game makes it a recurring element regardless of the character. It's fine if the extremely character-specific Charged Attack examples are in the folders though.
  • There may be tropes that are difficult to determine if they should go to the main work page or to the Characters page... Or that they can be listed better on the main work page instead by default. I think Theme Naming is one of them, or some one-time-instance tropes, etc.
  • A worse case scenario is that a trope on the Video Game tab may actually be a misuse or had other issues on its own (such as natter), likely because this page was rarely updated for a long time, or that the example hasn't been moved to a newer or better trope yet.

Maybe I'm partly at fault because I took a one-day Christmas break immediately after I created the first draft of the Characters.Granblue Fantasy Versus subpage, without modifying/deleting the examples on this Video Game tab first?

But looking at that edit, it seemed like the deletions should've been handled by tropers who are more familiar with the work in question.

Edited by DanteVin With Great Power, Comes Great Motivation
DarthEnderX Since: Jun, 2012
Jun 28th 2021 at 1:23:56 AM •••

Surprised this doesn't have a Characters page yet.

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DanteVin Since: Jul, 2016
Dec 24th 2023 at 1:58:13 AM •••

I'll try making the initial draft in the next few hours or days (hopefully I can publish it before Christmas). I also asked about it in the Granblue forums here, and yeah, another troper said it's basically just okay to make a subpage as long as it's specifically tropes pertaining to their appearance in Versus or Rising.

It was long overdue and this is obviously a very late reply, but I only thought of the need for it just now because 2B has been recently announced as a Guest Fighter for Rising. Surely, there has to be a place where we can list some of her tropes for this game, just like what Soul Calibur 6 tropers have done in Characters.Soulcalibur VI 3.

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DanteVin [[Memes/DevilMayCry The Time Has Come]] Since: Jul, 2016
[[Memes/DevilMayCry The Time Has Come]]
Feb 6th 2020 at 8:32:41 AM •••

Can we recover the previously-deleted tropes now? There were some that got axed (including those that were commented out) due to the implemented Unreleased Work Page Cleanup thread.

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Nouct insert commentary here Since: Sep, 2014
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Jun 28th 2019 at 8:49:56 AM •••

Does gameplay from the closed beta need to be noted everywhere that it came from the beta specifically held in that time period until the game comes out and then need to be verified again?

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DanteVin Since: Jul, 2016
Jun 28th 2019 at 9:47:34 AM •••

I think it is better now if changes get discussed here:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15514631230A64268600&page=48#1190

There is a policy being implemented by mods and several tropers, and they encourage fan tropers (of unreleased works) like us to bring any supposed changes or questions there first, or smth.

Edited by DanteVin With Great Power, Comes Great Motivation
HighCrate Since: Mar, 2015
Jun 28th 2019 at 1:52:06 PM •••

As the closed beta is, well, closed, it is not a publicly-available tropable source and may not be used for citation.

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