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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
May 4th 2021 at 8:29:01 AM •••

Removed from main page, as there is a cleanup effort on one of the pages linked here underway and I am not sure what to do with this entry:

  • Instant Awesome Just Add Dragons: Dragons serve as a penultimate boss in the second and final bosses in both. Actually, they're just people turned into dragons.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain)
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Aug 11th 2013 at 1:52:28 PM •••

Would it be good idea to split Golden Sun:The Lost Age from this article?

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
Aug 11th 2013 at 3:02:13 PM •••

Yes, very. I've only been putting it off because splitting pages that are this heavily integrated is a pain.

Maybe we should have a general Golden Sun franchise page for all the common tropes, then VideoGame.Golden Sun for the first game, VideoGame.Golden Sun The Lost Age for the second, and VideoGame.Golden Sun Dark Dawn for the third, with character pages redirecting to a central disambiguation page that has all the pages for the different groups? Though I may be getting ahead of myself; these games don't really have enough characters for something that extreme.

MacronNotes (Captain)
Aug 11th 2013 at 4:09:55 PM •••

I think a general page would be nice but I don't it should have a franchise page. The Franchise/ namespace is usually reserved for works with more than three media types. The only media (as far as I know) Golden Sun has are video games and there's only three of them. I would use Golden Sun: The Broken Seal for the first game and have Golden Sun as the general franchise page but that's the Japanese title and the wiki favours localised English titles..

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011
Feb 23rd 2016 at 9:47:25 AM •••

3 years later, I've decided to take up the challenge of splitting this pages info on The Broken Seal and The Lost Age into their own pages. The original page will then cover information found in both games. Kinda like how Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes and Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain were split.

EDIT: That's done. Both game now have their own pages and this page will act as the general.

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DonaldthePotholer Since: Dec, 2009
Sep 15th 2012 at 9:18:21 AM •••

Removed this:

  • You Fail Physics Forever: In TLA, when things start getting really cold after you light Jupiter Lighthouse, Kraden theorizes that the reason this happened after you lit the wind-element lighthouse situated in a temperate climate rather than the water-element one in the frozen North is that water doesn't cool as efficiently as wind. Air is a terrible conductor of heat; that's why people don't die of hypothermia in sixty-five degree weather (or for that matter, why some people can consider 65 degrees Fahrenheit to be "warm weather"). By contrast, water is a much better conductor of heat, which is why a hot piece of metal will stay hot for quite some time in open air, but cool almost instantly in a bucket of water.]]

Air may be, in and of itself, a terrible conductor, but Kraden's not talking about a calm day. With the Jupiter Lighthouse activated, the area is now subject to gale force winds. In effect, he's saying that there is a severe Windchill Effect. It's an aversion (albeit the more common aversion) of Convection, Schmonvection.

EDIT: In fact, with the Water Lighthouse active, it would enable a humidity component which is generally positive with regard to apparent temperature (ergo, how recorded heat indices are warmer than the local air temperature).

EDIT2: What the original poster seems to be describing is heat transfer by conduction. This, however, requires actual physical contact with an object or medium of different temperature. Given that the lighting of the Mercury Lighthouse was not accompanied by a global precipitation event (i.e. a worldwide rainstorm), this means that there is no opportunity for a global temperature shift based on a change in medium balance. Ergo, discussions of cooling based on conduction are immaterial to the changes in climate experienced in this game.

Edited by DonaldthePotholer Ketchum's corollary to Clarke's Third Law: Any sufficiently advanced tactic is indistinguishable from blind luck.
Bonzi77 Since: Feb, 2010
Jul 28th 2010 at 11:07:03 AM •••

Could the boulder at the beginning of the game be considered a literal Rock Falls, Everyone Dies?

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Watashiwa Since: Dec, 2009
Nov 9th 2010 at 12:14:18 PM •••

Except... except NO ONE DIES. >.<

darkpuck Since: Jan, 2001
Sep 3rd 2011 at 9:00:14 AM •••

On replaying the game, I've found that people did, in fact, die — one kid lost his father. However, nobody "important" — IE, relatives of the main cast — died.

217.211.88.20 Since: Dec, 1969
Jan 8th 2011 at 12:58:29 PM •••

I can't edit the page myself for some reason (suspecting I missed a memo), but on Bragging Rights Reward, it should be noted that Iris in Dark Dawn is gotten after even the final main plot boss is defeated.

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WildKnight Since: Jan, 2001
Jan 8th 2011 at 8:01:41 PM •••

It actually shouldn't, since Dark Dawn has its own separate page. It can be noted there, though.

You may have been edit banned, although I would not know. Try Ask The Tropers or something.

The blind man walking off the cliff is not making a leap of faith.
217.211.88.20 Since: Dec, 1969
Jan 11th 2011 at 9:05:29 AM •••

Fair enough, though I thought this was the series-spanning page.

WildKnight BlackKnight Since: Jan, 2001
BlackKnight
Oct 20th 2010 at 12:38:51 PM •••

Just a note that, since the game's coming out in Japan in a week, I'm gonna take preemptive action and move the soft-split Dark Dawn section to a Golden Sun: Dark Dawn page so as to avoid spoilers. Not that I know if anyone's going to be importing it (and really, it's a month-long wait, why would you?), but just in case...

The blind man walking off the cliff is not making a leap of faith.
195.194.119.220 Since: Dec, 1969
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