Discussion VideoGame / DukeNukemForever

I'd say that by the sheer amount of people who disagree and think that it was supposed to be funny, you're entitled to remark that there are varying opinions on how it was portrayed, but to acknowledge that the trope might actually be applying.

The problem is that the perception is wrong. In any objective playthrough, you don't see Duke making a joke out of the women getting raped. When he put the women out of their misery, he's remorseful about it. When the Holsom Twins die, Duke is notably angry and swears vengeance. The only joke he cracks at the Holsom Twins was after he caught up to the twins and thought he could rescue them (the women didn't explode yet, so Duke, at that point, doesn't know they'll die). The joke was cracked to help reduce some tension in a stressful situation, and the twins actually crack a joke back. When they die, Duke swears revenge. No where in the entire game is rape actually treated as a joke. Yeah, in the Hive, Duke still cracks jokes at the aliens, but that's at the ALIENS, not the human women.

It doesn't matter what people think. From an objective standpoint, rape is not treated as a joke, hence people are getting offended by the game they built up in their heads, not the actual game in real life, which is unfair to the game.

Writers Cannot Do Math.

All the Presidents kept dying from the Alien Invasions?

I think impossible expectations have something to do with it. The shoddy 360 port and poor handling of certain PC features like dedicated servers didn't help matters, though. But really, whenever I read a negative review of the game, it's almost as if the reviewer wanted to hate the game no matter what.

You know, I saw two sides of this debate:

If the game did well, people would have claimed that reviewers were so hyped they wanted to like the game.

If the game did poorly, people would have claimed the reviewers were over-hyped and they wanted to hate it.

Frankly, disregarding the criticisms because you disagree with them is useless.

This has an effect on this same page. So far, many people have edited it to complain about a game they don't like. And that's bad.

The sad fact is the game does not play well. Not for a 1995 throwback, not for today's standards. It is worth playing if you can look past the rape jokes, but the quality really is quite poor.

Hype Backlash was already in effect given the game's lengthy development schedule. Most people don't usually factor in the numerous engine restarts and consider the game to have been done over all the fourteen years they spent on it, when in fact probably only about a third of it was spent developing the actual game on the engine it currently uses.

At the end of the consumer's day, the only thing they care is that they waited for nearly a generation just for a game that doesn't quite match up to many of the other first-person shooters on the market. At the end of Gearbox's day, they just want to wrap up the big mess that 3D Realms started so that people can stop waiting.

Check the forums => Special Efforts => Wick namespace moving thread.

Works now belong in their genre's namespaces. The Main namespace is now reserved for tropes.

From only the 2 links above: A third party company not exactly related to Take 2 (and definitely NOT Gearbox) has an employee that broadcasted company-unsanctioned crap against the public... and is almost immediately lynched, detached, disconnected and removed from any responsibility of being associated with the game by the distributor (Take 2)?

Sounds legit to me... but also this: sounds like it should have NOTHING to do with the game at all. I think removing this is a good call.

The game both parodies it and plays it straight—or, rather, you could say it hangs a lampshade on its own Rated M for Manly.

Its in the online menu. The selection is called "My Digs."

It wasn't really about whether it'll come out some day, but more about whether it will live up to the hype. And now it seems Gearbox is making it into a rather generic console shooter. One in a long line of mediocre Duke games.

Just because it has current conventions of First Person Shooters doesn't make it generic. It would be about as valid as calling Duke Nukem 3D generic because it had secrets and health packs, all of which were conventions of the FPS genre at the time. It would only be generic if Duke was another Heroic Mime instead of the wise-cracking Bad Ass everyone loves him as. This game injects humor and fun into a genre that seems to be taking itself very seriously right now.