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animebyjet the anime gamer Since: Sep, 2014
the anime gamer
Oct 10th 2014 at 8:28:16 PM •••

How does the male Barbarian have the powers of the nephilim as he far older the all the other classes the only way I can see it is if he was at ground zero of the Worldstone destruction and somehow survived

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Pickly Since: Mar, 2010
Aug 2nd 2012 at 8:14:17 PM •••

Were the background screams when fighting the act 4 boss there the whole time, or just added in an update. (Will probably add them to the nightmare fuel page, as for some reason they were really, really, creepy to me, but am checking when they were added first.)

Pseudomonas Since: Jun, 2012
Jun 15th 2012 at 1:49:04 PM •••

Regarding the "Celibate Heroine" entry: I don't believe the exchange between the Monk and Lyndon quoted as an example can be considered definitive proof of the female monk's celibacy, given that the same exchange occurs between Lyndon and the female Witch Doctor. The exchange proves only that she's most definitely not interested in Lyndon!

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JoieDeCombat Since: May, 2009
Jun 15th 2012 at 1:58:18 PM •••

On its own I agree it doesn't prove much, but the female monk also warns Eirena not to ask her for advice about men, which combined with the former suggests the trope is in effect.

Pseudomonas Since: Jun, 2012
Jun 19th 2012 at 9:54:36 AM •••

Again, the exact same conversation (elder sister, do not ask me for advice about men) occurs with the female Witch Doctor as well. The intent appears to be more to fluster (successfully) Eirena. I have yet to play the other female characters, but so far the conversations with the followers (at least while you're out fighting) seem to be pretty similar across classes.

Arrow Since: Jul, 2010
Jun 24th 2012 at 3:17:14 PM •••

There's also the fact that the male Demon Hunter has much this same conversation with Eirena, though obviously with "elder brother" plopped in. Clearly these exchanges aren't unique to the female Monk.

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mailedbypostman complete noob Since: May, 2010
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TwoGunAngel Since: Jul, 2010
Jun 16th 2012 at 10:07:57 PM •••

Indeed. I'm wondering if we couldn't do what we did for Mortal Kombat and make an entire page for them?

SomeNewGuy Since: Jun, 2009
Jun 14th 2012 at 12:39:36 PM •••

There seems to be an edit war starting to brew over Leah's mention in Distressed Damsel, so I figured I'd put my input in.

Not counting her possession, Leah is captured a grand total of once in the entire game (Early in Act 2), and even then she's easily able to best her captors once her power awakens. Based on that, I don't think she applies.

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Hamzs Since: Aug, 2011
Jun 3rd 2012 at 7:33:49 AM •••

The deacon -recon switch or whatever it's called thing is just.... stupid. Not only is it blatantly offensive in its wording and is utterly inappropriate in tone, it is also somewhat inaccurate on a number of counts.

Firstly, Tolkien never created or attempted to create a theory of fantasy heroism based on fighters, mages or thieves. If anything, that could be argued to rest with Gary Gygax and the Dungeons and Dragons thing. Tolkien's heroes were neither of these three, but the heroic aspect of his story rather centered upon the bravery of the smallest. Ie, THE HOBBITS.

Secondly, the entry makes some bullshit statement about multiculturalism or the lackthereof in Tolkien and Tolkienien works. Of course, this may be the case in many examples of the latter, but let's just focus on John Rueld Ronald for a bit. Tolkien was an unabashed admirer of many other cultures, particularly Germanic and Nordic (and indeed took great pride in his Germanic lineage, despite being an ardent English patriot) and that of the Jewish people. Evident in his prolific use of Norse mythology and culture in his writings. Particularly of Rohan, which is quite clearly Nordic inspired (and this entry uses the use of the Norse Warrior Barbarian to underscore multiculturalism and literary 'maturity' in Diablo, despite the Barbarian being barely Norse at all himself Ha) And in the Jewish influences he put to the Dwarves. Nevermind his absolute hatred for the prejudice exhibited by the Nazi regime and by Adolf Hitler in particular. Where Tolkien alive today, he would be the most ardent supporter of multiculturalism and his books also hold up as extraordinarily open minded for their time. One need only look at how the Easterlings and Haradrim were shown in the Lo TR books as proud and noble warriors who were respected by their Gondorian adversaries.

The entry has no material that backs up its claims of Diablo's breaking away of cliche and forward-thinkingness (quite the opposite, really. The game is nothing if a massive storm of cliche in its own right, and the given examples themselves easily fit into the mold it attempts to decry). And shows no knowledge of Tolkien or even Tolkienesque fantasy in it's pointless attempt at avant-garde. It should be either deleted or rewritten.

Thanks.

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NonoRobot Since: Sep, 2010
Jun 3rd 2012 at 3:36:27 PM •••

I couldn't agree more. As it is, I don't think that this entry should remain on the trope pages. I deleted the entry on both the main page and on the Analysis page. The author of this entry is invited to explain his view here.

darkjezter Since: Apr, 2011
Jun 3rd 2012 at 10:47:44 PM •••

I also agree with the removal of that entry. It's a very subjective interpretation and the overall tone of the entry is opinionated and combative.

Peteman Since: Jan, 2001
Jun 2nd 2012 at 6:10:14 PM •••

Can someone confirm for me whether or not Tyrael is actually a Badass Normal (as in, doesn't have magical/superhuman powers). I haven't played the game, but I have seen way too many times people claiming a character was a Badass Normal just because they didn't have as extreme abilities as the other people.

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Hamzs Since: Aug, 2011
Jun 3rd 2012 at 7:45:48 AM •••

Is he using magic? As he clearly is in various instances. Then no.

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Skywalker007 Since: Apr, 2010
May 28th 2012 at 3:48:22 PM •••

Eh, I did not have a chance to view all of the event(my teammate skip some of them) but since when did Leah become a damsel in distress?

Feather7603 DevilsAdvocate Since: Dec, 2011
DevilsAdvocate
May 27th 2012 at 9:41:11 AM •••

Made some changes and deletions, with reasonings for the latter below:

Edited by Feather7603 The Internet misuses, abuses, and overuses everything.
SamMax Since: Sep, 2011
May 24th 2012 at 6:45:00 AM •••

◦And the "always online" nature of the game especially since this means the game is over for good once Blizzard decides to no longer support the Diablo 3 servers

Is there still something that can be done in case this happens?

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Sethala Since: Dec, 2009
May 24th 2012 at 10:47:12 PM •••

Considering they've been supporting Diablo 2's servers for over a decade, I think it's safe to say that this won't be a concern for a long time.

Even so, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they put out a patch that lets players play offline (by giving them all the extra AI and world-generating code and whatnot that the game client is missing).

Mirilene The Ditz Since: Jan, 2011
The Ditz
May 18th 2012 at 1:09:36 AM •••

This line - "Imperius is killed by the Diablo in the opening to Act 4." is wrong. In the first quest we see Tyrael and Imperius talking. And later we see Imperius again. At least alive until Diablo reaches the arc. Diablo merely wounds Imperius in the cinematic.

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Virgelion Since: Mar, 2011
May 20th 2012 at 12:51:57 AM •••

Yeah, this was kinda an error on my part. Since the cutscenes were released much earlier than the game itself, I assumed Imperius died either from bleeding out or when the gate crashed on him. But it seems like Imperius is Made of Iron.

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pittsburghmuggle Pittsburghmuggle Since: Jan, 2010
Pittsburghmuggle
May 15th 2012 at 12:25:05 AM •••

Rather than me actually vandalizing the trope page, just pretend I made the page quote:

"Error 37"
—Blizzard

Edited by pittsburghmuggle "Freedom is not a license for chaos" -Norton Juster's The Dot and the Line: A Romance in Lower Mathematics Hide / Show Replies
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