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DanteVin [[Memes/DevilMayCry The Time Has Come]] Since: Jul, 2016
[[Memes/DevilMayCry The Time Has Come]]
Aug 13th 2021 at 7:32:22 AM •••

I'd just like to ask others if these trope examples/sentences are true:

  • Your Son All Along: Though V and Vergil are both clearly aware Nero is a blood descendant of Sparda, they spend most of the game assuming he's Dante's son and their nephew, not the other way around.

Sometime ago, I expanded that to mention the Visions of V manga where Griffon and V think that Nero is likely the son of Dante or Vergil (they weren't still sure who's the father), and V doesn't mind if Nero is a descendant of Sparda. However, I'm now curious of the "they spend most of the game assuming he's Dante's son and their nephew" part. At which part of the game (or some dialogue lines/lore descriptions) did they think that Nero is Dante's son? I can't seem to find it, and it might as well be better to reference it in the trope example if that specific part is indeed true. One thing that confuses me about the statement is that, trying to find a source for the "V/Vergil thinks that Nero is Dante's son" part on the Internet mostly brings up fan theories instead. This makes me curious if the sentence is actually just a popular fan theory being treated as canon but without giving any proof.


  • No Cutscene Inventory Inertia: Averted. If you equip Dante with Balrog before a cutscene begins, its distinctive armor will appear on his feet, arms, and shoulders in the cutscene.

I switched to Balrog before a cutscene happens and it doesn't appear on him during a cutscene no matter how many times I try. I'm now wondering if this trope example is true or not. If it's indeed true, how can we actually replicate it to make Balrog appear in a cutscene? Do we have to exploit a visual bug? The trope itself isn't a complete aversion as well (there are cutscenes where the characters' weapons are still pre-determined by the game). I would want to update the entire example, but the Balrog part of it is the only thing that I can't verify and I'd like to deal with it first.

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Hello83433 (Lucky 7)
Aug 13th 2022 at 11:03:40 AM •••

I believe the first trope is an Implied thing based off of a short convo near the end of the game. Vergil: "Nero is my son!?" Dante: "Yeah dumbass. You can't remember through that thick skull of yours?" With V already believing Nero is a descendant of Sparda and knowing that Vergil had been "preoccupied" for the last half of his life, the only logical conclusion for him is that Nero is Dante's son. So I would edit it that its an implied trope.

As for the second, I don't have the time to test it out (and won't for a while), but it is possible that a few cutscenes don't have inventory inertia while others do. That would explain why it failed for you. In which case, we'd need to find which cutscenes this applies to and specify them.

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Mapleteal Since: Apr, 2014
May 23rd 2020 at 5:32:30 PM •••

I'm looking at the entry for As You Know and it doesn't seem right. Wasn't the context why Nero not having a family growing up and being guilty of not saving Credo was because he was found by Credo's and Kyrie's family as a baby and bullied as a child because he was thought to be the son of a prostitute, as explained in Deadly Fortune, along with Credo and Kyrie being the only ones that gave him respect?

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eagle108 Since: Aug, 2009
Sep 25th 2018 at 6:55:18 PM •••

Please stop adding leaked information about the game, especially the one from the r/kappa reddit, because we don't know the context yet. If the info came from Capcom or game news sites themselves, then those can be added.

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Riley1sCool Since: Dec, 2014
Jun 13th 2018 at 2:34:24 PM •••

Please don't put up that "V" is Vergil. No matter how plausible, speculation is speculation, and doesn't belong on a trope page.

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eagle108 Since: Aug, 2009
Sep 1st 2018 at 6:41:53 PM •••

Also, ANYTHING that's leaked - as in not released by Capcom themselves officially - shouldn't be added.

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