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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
May 10th 2021 at 6:32:10 AM •••

Removed from main page, as there is a cleanup effort on Jossed underway and I am not sure what to do with this entry:

  • The Watch Maker: An eBook on Jensen's coffee table and scattered gears suggest he's taken up clockwork as a hobby, likely to build dexterity in his new hands - not to mention patience.note 

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Zabeus Since: Aug, 2010
Jan 23rd 2015 at 5:11:36 AM •••

I don't understand how this trope applies.

Jedi Truth: Hugh Darrows publicly states that his Panchaea project will directly fix the high amounts of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and help restore balance to the world's ecosystems. Technically, he's not lying.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Jan 23rd 2015 at 7:35:17 AM •••

With no further context, it doesn't apply.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Zabeus Since: Aug, 2010
Jan 28th 2015 at 10:13:59 AM •••

Yes I deleted another phrase in the "Gaia's Lament" entry referencing Jedi Truth because it didn't give any context, but even after finishing DXHR it still doesn't make sense to me. (maybe one of many story subtexts that's easy to miss)

snippyshelf7 Since: May, 2011
Jun 18th 2013 at 8:01:15 PM •••

Which characters attack the player if he has a gun out, and do the newspapers count as The Dev Team Thinks Of Everything? If the player shoots up the Detroit PD, the newspapers will say a assailant walked in and started shooting(The cops outside also turn hostile and will immediately blast you to death the minute you leave the PD), along with a photo of a man whos face resembles Jensen. If he uses stealth, the newspaper says missing evidence as the reason the precinct shut down. This is just one example of the newspapers changing to your actions.

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Thecommander236 Since: Aug, 2011
Mar 18th 2013 at 1:58:52 PM •••

Neuropozyne is pronounced noo rop ä zēn, I believe. Just in case anyone is curious. Vowels are like: Neu (neu ron) rop (pop) o (ah) zyne {team)

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Diabolo Since: Jul, 2011
Feb 10th 2012 at 4:33:20 PM •••

Now, i havent played DE:HR and i have only seen a few clips on Youtube but i saw the Extra Credits video about it and made me wonder if it is really that difficult to solve the "if the rich kid has the better augmentation available, how can the poor kid compete with that?" problem? First of all take a look in the Heroic RROD Real Life section with this sentence so i dont have to write all of it: "Humans are capable of using only one-third of their muscles' potential strength (even when hyped up on steroids) due to a biologically implemented mental block" Conspiracy aside, why cant in the DE:HR universe have robot arms that act as a normal limb and only activate their full potential in a andrenaline rush life or death situation but without the drawbacks of having your muscles become mush by the effort? I mean it just raises an eyebrow in how the robot arms can shape into rocket launchers and other cool stuff but something as simple as a having the arms just be calibrated to be functional as a normal arm isnt the first thing the scientist do

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reno2200 Since: Apr, 2012
Jun 9th 2012 at 6:38:46 AM •••

Augments were first created for people with missing/faulty limbs, which is why the creator of augmentation was so bitter - his leg was FUBAR but his DNA strongly rejected augmentation, so he couldn't get a new one.

reno2200 Since: Apr, 2012
Jun 9th 2012 at 6:36:45 AM •••

Defictionalization: A lot of effort went into making sure that the 'Twenty Minutes Into The Future' look felt right, including the fashion. It looks futuristic, but not too distanced from today. As such, there are official clothes you can buy that, whilst not 100% identical, have a similar look and feel to the game's clothing. http://eu.deusex-store.com/category/29_Deus-Ex-Official-Collection

MCE Grin and tonic Since: Jan, 2001
Grin and tonic
Jan 6th 2012 at 4:49:47 PM •••

Would it considered irony that the hookers in the Hung Hua Hotel are against augmentations, despite most of them having two obvious 'augmentations' (Chinese woman aren't famed for having large chests)

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TheInferno Since: Jul, 2010
Jan 21st 2012 at 5:28:31 PM •••

Uh... 1) If it's not mentioned in game, you can't really say that that is the case and 2) There's a difference between something like that and having pieces of your body wholesale replaced.

"The fact that your food can be made into makeshift bombs alarms the Hell out of me, Scrye." - Charlatan
DrDaxxy Since: Feb, 2010
Apr 14th 2012 at 12:07:19 PM •••

No reason they couldn't have been forced to get those as well.

TheInferno |Y| = |X| Add 5 Since: Jul, 2010
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Jan 21st 2012 at 5:27:27 PM •••

The Ungrateful Bastards example can be averted, as noted now. Should it stay on the page, then? It does apply if you don't do things perfectly, and the only reason I found out it was possible was a sheer damn lucky tranq headshot.

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TheInferno Since: Jul, 2010
Jan 23rd 2012 at 8:32:50 AM •••

@Zaptech: Re-read your edit after I made mine, that's a pretty good one. Still, even the guy who was saying that it might be better if he died came off as more philosophizing rather than condemning of your actions, which most of the others came off as. If the example stays on the page, would this be alright?

* [[UngratefulBastard Ungrateful Bastards]]: SWAT. If Adam gets through the Sarif Manufacturing plant with absolutely zero casualties, along with defusing a ''bomb'' and successfully conducting a hostage negotiation to convince a cornered, desperate terrorist to release an innocent woman unharmed, all they do is bitch at him because the terrorist leader escaped. Even if Adam manages to take Sanders down alive, one of them will muse that it might've been better if he died so that he couldn't spread his views anymore.

"The fact that your food can be made into makeshift bombs alarms the Hell out of me, Scrye." - Charlatan
Tomwithnonumbers Since: Dec, 2010
Dec 26th 2011 at 4:14:15 PM •••

If someone with skill has time on their hands, do they want to rewrite the main article? Because it's completely devoted to pre-release expectations which is pretty inappropriate now. Really we want a story summary, followed by background expectation, a short line about divided opinions and the excepted critical response to the game nowadays. I don't think I have the confidence to write it, but it really needs to be done

MCE Grin and tonic Since: Jan, 2001
Grin and tonic
Dec 21st 2011 at 11:33:49 AM •••

Could the fact that crazed guards run towards grenades rather than away from them be a reference to a certain zombie game?

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ShadowAssassinSeek Since: Jul, 2011
Oct 22nd 2011 at 9:26:11 PM •••

Jensen's blades shoot out of his cybernetic arms in the middle of his forearms. The blades are spec-ed to 35cm or 13.8 inches. If the blades emerge from the middle of his forearms, how are the blades stored in his arms? Maybe a blade made to be like Batman's cape until a electric charge is run through it?

SirFrederick Since: Jan, 2001
Oct 18th 2011 at 9:28:23 AM •••

Whoever wrote former PM John Howard's email to Picus captured his voice brilliantly. Also, cyberpunk settings seem to love the idea of a divided Australia - Gibson's Bridge series did the same thing.

metaphysician Since: Oct, 2010
Sep 19th 2011 at 2:41:46 PM •••

Is there a trope for cases like with Jensen's apartment, where a game uses a view of a character's home as a way to provide information about the character?

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adamflint Since: Nov, 2010
Oct 13th 2011 at 7:17:39 AM •••

I don't think so, maybe we could call it Apartment Door Into the Soul or something.

Chongomaster Since: Nov, 2010
Sep 27th 2011 at 12:54:15 PM •••

Does anyone else think that Anticlimax Boss is too long and nattery? What should be done about if it?

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Chongomaster Since: Nov, 2010
Sep 27th 2011 at 12:57:45 PM •••

Nevermind, I moved it to the YMMV tab.

CapitaineSchizo Since: Mar, 2011
Sep 16th 2011 at 3:59:31 PM •••

I don't want to start an Edit War about Megan Reed Complete Monster status on the YMMV page. So I'm starting a topic here to ask what is the issue here. I know Deus Ex is quite the polarizing game but it's annoying to see edits I made being deleted twice with a "what, what?" for sole explanation because someone doesn't believe what I wrote. It should be useful for further questions on the matter, especially concerning the endings.

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Tahaneira Since: Oct, 2009
Sep 16th 2011 at 8:32:57 PM •••

'Complete Monster' is reserved for people who have no redeeming qualities. While talking about Patient X, she acts guilty as hell, and when she finally gets around to revealing the truth, she's practically crying. She also acts shocked when she sees what Darrow is actually using her work for. She also does try to save Adam's life when Namir is attacking her. I'll grant that she adapts to her new situation way too easily, and the ending paints her in a dickish light, but she clearly feels guilt and responsibility. Unless you can provide evidence that she's faking, Complete Monsterdom is beyond her grasp.

CapitaineSchizo Since: Mar, 2011
Sep 17th 2011 at 8:37:03 AM •••

Thanks for the answer. I admit she feels guilty at the beginning of the game but I think (Hence the YMMV problem) the C Mdom is slowly building afterwards, ending up with the Moral Event Horizon in The Stinger where she's heard joining Majectic 12/Illuminati because she is willing to work on The Plague project. That would also mean Bob Page broke the cutie but that's another matter.

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CaptainNemo1138 Since: Mar, 2011
Sep 17th 2011 at 6:53:09 PM •••

The only complete monsters are Zhao and Page, really. Darrow at least tries to redeem himself. Also, holy crap guys, spoiler warnings?

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PS Since: Jan, 2001
Sep 19th 2011 at 9:52:43 AM •••

Is there really a good reason to believe that she KNOWS she will contribute to the development of a biological weapon? The "nano virus chimera" could also be a pure For Science! project, from her perspective.

Tahaneira Since: Oct, 2009
Aug 29th 2011 at 11:42:11 AM •••

Is there a trope for product names that are ironic, or at least really suck? Because, the Icarus Landing System? Really? If I was going to get a parachute, I wouldn't want one named after a guy who fell to his death.

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CaptainNemo1138 Since: Mar, 2011
Sep 17th 2011 at 6:53:59 PM •••

Fridge Brilliance: If Icarus had had the Icarus system, he never would've fell.

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