…Ah, there's an edit requests thread somewhere. Where is it?
Sends me into hyperspace, when I see her pretty face…Should we put in something about the now ongoing invasion, or put in a notice not to comment about it for now? Because I am not sure what to do here and now.
Hide / Show RepliesSince it's ongoing, it might be a good idea to hold off on it for now. Then again, the Covid-19 pandemic has a page and that's not over yet (sadly).
I think that we can, at this point, put some basic information like the start of the war and that NATO supports Ukraine into the article.
As the war has been ongoing for a year and a half now, shouldn't some thought be given to at least opening a separate (and tightly moderated) page for the war? It seems really odd that such a consequential event isn't mentioned at all on this page, even though I recognize the mods want to prevent undesirable events such as edit wars.
Please update the Government part: Dmytro Razumkov hasn't been the Chairman of Parliament since October 2021. The current Chairman is Ruslan Stefanchuk.
Hide / Show RepliesUpdate request submitted on the locked pages thread. I've tagged you.
P.S. Carol of the Bells originally started as the Ukrainian Bell Carol. Should this be mentioned?
Might be awesome. Wait, no, is awesome. Hide / Show RepliesI do not know who wrote that the Crimean Russians are "children and grandsons of immigrants", but this is a lie, since Crimean Tatars have never been large enough to make up the majority of the Crimean population, and at least since the 18th century, especially after the appearance of such cities as Sevastopol and Simferopol, the majority of the population of Crimea are Russians and to a lesser extent Ukrainians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Crimea#Ethnicities_and_languages.
Moreover, even before the Tatars in Crimea lived a large number of Greeks, Armenians and other autochthonous Muslim peoples like Krymchaks, so this statement is clearly offensive.
Edited by LittleBusterAs long as you cite proper academic sources and from multiple countries and mention it, then it's fine...this is obviously a sensitive topic. Write it in an even and neutral tone....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Crimea#Ethnicities_and_languages
For example. Even in tsarist times, the Crimean Tatars were as many as Russians, but not the majority. The problem is that after the Stalin era, a lot of tension developed between the Russian and Crimean Tatars, which was only maintained during the Ukrainian era, as Viktor Yushchenko hoped, that the conflict between the Russians and the Tatars would interfere with the ever greater development of the prophetic views in the Crimea.
You would need to do better than wikipedia, I am talking CIA World Factbook, University scholarly papers, published books with biblography and annotations.
There are sources on censuses and the history of the annexation of the Crimea to Russia after Rissian-Turkish war. I just want to say that this is a very hot topic for Crimean residents and such a statement is equivalent if a resident of Texas or California claimed that any people of Mexican origin in these states are only "descendants of illegal immigrants."
P.S. Moreover, I did not notice there the sources of the statement I deleted.
Let's wait for more people to chip in...or alternatively go to the Real-Life and On-topic parts of the Tvtropes forums and either PM one of the posters there or ask them their opinion.
I am not qualified on the content of the discussion, more the process...
http://demoscope.ru/weekly/ssp/rus_lan_97_uezd_eng.php?reg=1420 For example, here is the first population census of the Crimea for the year 1897. As you can see, Crimean Tatars are slightly more than Russians and several times less than all Slavs in general. And this is not counting the Germans, Greeks, Armenians, Jews and more smaller Muslim nations.
Well, in that case, please give me a link to the topic that you opened.
It should do - and also warrants its own page, as there is now a Ukrainian-filmed drama series on Netflix set during the initial invasion. It's called Ya Nadiya, which literally translates as I am Hope, the title being used in English. Nadiya ("Hope") being the name of the lead character, a paramedic in Kharkiv.
Why among “notable personalities”, many are either: -emigrants (many of whom may have just a bit of Ukrainian origin or just even having no connection besides birthplace. Plus it sounds like all of you do believe that real Ukrainians “moved”); -Russians/Jews/Poles who just happened to be born in Ukraine (Skrypka, our singer, was born in Tajikistan - yet nobody ever calls him Tajik by nationality. Mickevycz was born in Belarus, yet nobody calls him Belarusian); -War criminals like Khrushchev or Brezhnev (you won’t associate Georgia (country in Caucasus) with Stalin - a monster not better than Hitler, right?) or even Poklonskaya (who is as awful as dumb, not to mention she is not a Ukrainian. She is even a member of Russian parliament. She tells complete nonsense. For example - about Nikolai the Second icon nonsense); -corrupt politicians (c’mon, you will never associate Italy with Berlusconi, Switzerland with Blatter or France with Sarkozi!); -literal serial killers. Where are Orlyk, Khmelnytskyi, Amosov, Puliuy, Sirko etc?
Was it the case that the remnant of Bandera's nationalists continued a guerilla war against the Russians/USSR well into the 1950's? I'm sure I read somewhere that sporadic fighting lasted until just after the death of Stalin - 1956?
Also, a large chunk of the western Ukraine - incorporating Lublin, Brest, et c - belonged to Poland until 1939: "recovering" this was the USSR's rationale for invading Poland in alliance with the Germans. In 1945, the land borders were pushed west so that this land became the Ukraine in perpetuity, and Poland made up the loss at Germany's expense.
Edited by 89.242.248.2>>Many Ukrainians will object if you call them Russians- the Russians were responsible for millions of deaths in the Ukrainian SSR, including a possible genocide in the Holodomor("death by hunger") —- gods, what nonsense. Mostly Ukrainians will object if you call them Russians- just because they are not Russians. Speaking russian language does not make you russian, m-okey? It's just like if you speak english - automatically makes you englishman. P.S. And Ukrainians blame only Stalinist policies for famine.
Edited by Gangrena
Word to the mods, the flag's "sky and grain field" thing may just be an urban legend. Flags of Ukraine prior to it also used blue and yellow. The original meaning may have been lost. https://youtu.be/XfxRau1aURE
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