seems that the article was made a little less offensive, but it's still weird that all the japanese dresses get a long love letter article, and the cheong sam has more information on how japan sees it than on the dress itself... I'm glad we added in more background info.
I've updated the article so its no longer Japan focused and lowkey pooping over my culture. If we want to talk about Japanese brutality against Chinese women during the Sino Japanese War, I think that a 'useful notes' article on the Sino-Japanese war (feel free to make a Sino Japanese/Useful Notes page link to the article regarding the Sino-Japanese limk) will be much better in informing people and being respectful. This article is not the place for it, and associating every cultural piece of clothing with some well known historical or ongoing horror is not something I think tvtropes should do or has done historically with any cultural or historical dress (in my experience being a troper for years, this is not a thing that tvtropes does as a norm anyway), the fact that the Chinese cultural formal dress has been singled out for this comes off as racist, quite frankly. I haven't fact checked everything that was written in by previous editors yet, working on it. Thank you.
To head off an Edit War about Willi Scott in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, I'm starting this discussion. Does the dress qualify as a qipao?
First of all, the fabric from which it is made is not relevant, I think, only the style. Wilie Scott's dress has a flared skirt with no side slits, so does it qualify?
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4 years later!!!! Naaah. At most it could be one of the western fashions that influenced the evolution of the cheongsam. Doesn't have the collar or the way it is closed correctly
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Didn't Hay Lin (W.I.T.C.H) wear one of these at one point?
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Is it me or is there something a little weird about associating a idk, common recent-cultural specific fashion-trend dress with like... a horrible historical event? I mean I think I understand what the article is trying to say (explicit unfortunate implications about depiction in Japanese media) but on a quick nobrain read it just feels like associating the presence of the dress itself with rape vibes or arguing that any manga using it to dress an attractive female character is bringing back rape vibes/referencing a historical atrocity... Is that the intent of what we are trying to do here with this description and is there a better way to convey the information? (If it is the intent, then no need for changes. I do not support nixing the information about Japanese depiction and unfortunate implications altogether however.) Discussing this because I really am uncertain of the original intent...
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