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ChronoRebel_GreatGryffon Since: Mar, 2019
Jun 8th 2022 at 12:13:04 AM •••

Clicked on the wrong button to make my post

I propose that in the phrase that says "died in a convent two years later", "in a convent" should be a link to the Irony page.

Destros Since: Jan, 2001
Jan 25th 2022 at 9:51:48 PM •••

Without trying to be a jerk, very little of this seems plausible or even CLOSE to reality. What (legitimate) sources are you guys using?

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Koveras Since: Jan, 2001
Jan 25th 2022 at 11:47:35 PM •••

First off, asking for sources on the net is not a jerk thing to do, but a very reasonable request. On the other hand, Julie d'Aubigny was not important enough in her time to leave behind a lot of reliable details about her life — she is more of a legend than a real person at this point. Luckily, TV Tropes is not a biographical wiki, so we are more concerned with narratives (read: legends) about historical characters than with their plausibility and realism. Read: if some or even most contents of the article don't seem historically plausible or realistic to you, don't worry about it.

With that caveat out of the way, some of the sources for the legends about La Maupin are linked to in Web Original folder of the article. For more academic sources, see the Wikipedia article about her, and if you read French, I recommend taking a look at the French version, too.

SpeedBoostTorchic Since: Aug, 2015
Feb 18th 2022 at 9:35:17 PM •••

Not to be that guy but I just read the Wikipedia article and it contains none of the highlights/legends that are mentioned on this page. No, not the French version either.

Digging into the Web Original folder, they mostly don't cite anything. Extra Credits promised they'd go into it in their Lies podcast, but never did. two of the four books cited by Badass of the Week aren't even ABOUT d'Aubigny, and one of the remaining ones is just a compendium of female French opera singers, and also doesn't mention anything about these legends.

I have a bit of a personal attatchment to d'Aubigny myself - she's been adopted as a bit of a icon by the bisexual community - but this looks suspiciously like online misinformation spreading because it makes for a good story.

You're right that TV Tropes isn't a biographical site, but doesn't the lack of citation even deserve a mention? you have to admit: the "highlights" on this page aren't framed merely as a retelling of dubious legends.

Koveras Since: Jan, 2001
Feb 18th 2022 at 11:13:01 PM •••

If you have to start your post with "not to be that guy" (or "without trying to be a jerk", for that matter), you are a "that guy". :-)

I have altered the intro of the article to highlight the mythologized nature of d'Aubigny's biography — tell me if it now works for you.

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ChronoRebel_GreatGryffon Since: Mar, 2019
Jun 8th 2022 at 12:11:45 AM •••

I propose that in the phrase that says "died in a convent two years later", "in a convent" should be a link to the Irony page.

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