Could we get someone slightly less biased to write the "About the Setting" bit? While it's not entirely wrong, the person's political bias bleeds through to the point of poisoning the whole page.
I mean, really. "the Imperium of Man, is a paranoid, fascist theocratic state" is just so childishly wrong I barely know where to begin; calling it a state is wrong, nevermind attributing modern-world prescriptions/ideologies to it.
The entire "About the Setting" is just "the Imperium is really really inexcusably bad.. also the other factions are also bad so"
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Mod: Watch your tone.
Non-mod: I'm game for ideas on how to improve it. While it's expanded a great deal, the overall theme and mood of that section really hasn't changed. Also, in a game where every faction is evil to some degree, the only comment I can muster for that last remark is "Yeah, and...?"
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Look, I know this is a lost cause where most of the Internet is concerned but... it's "XENOS", not "XENO". Xenos is a collective noun, not a plural. I don't know how to fix this, because right now the Characters pages include one for "Xeno races".
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I've thought about remaking the page to correct that for ages but have never gotten around to it.
With the newest version of Kill Team (the tabletop version based on 8th edition rules), is it different enough to warrant its own page?
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I have been working on something offline for a while but haven't got very far. I have now made a Sandbox (Warhammer 40000 Kill Team) for what I have done. Also if it is made, it should cover all versions of the rules (the Chapter Approved ones, the ones in the 4th Edition Rulebook, the old Warhammer World Event ones and the two sort of stand alone games).
Knowledge is Power, Guard it Well
From 'Ell's 'eart Oi stab at ye!
Is there a reason this wiki is full of Imperial Guard Fan Wank? I would like to request we undertake a cleanup project to make their coverage more objective and neutral.
I vaguely remeber a gift of Tzeentch or chaos undivided that gives the champion a vision of how they are going to die so they are not afraid of dying any other way
I can't seem to find it, does anyone know what I'm talking about?
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New rulebook time. Which picture should we use for our front page? Because there's like five of them to choose from with the new slipcover design
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Not sure this is the right place to put this, but it seemed as appropriate as anywhere else: Can you deploy armies composed of more than one faction? So for example, if you wanted to could you create an army composed of both Space Marine and Imperial Guard models provided you followed all other relevant rules? Do the TTG rules allow that?
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I don't know, but this
forum thread might know.
The introduction needs to be rewritten to be more accessible to non-fans.
I've got to say, as somebody who has never played Warhammer 40K, I literally did not understand what was being written in the introduction, because it's written with an assumed level of knowledge. For example it's like the writers have gone, "There's no need to fully explain who the factions are, why they are fighting, and where they came from, because we all already know that".
I'm not blaming anyone, I know it's hard to write from a neutral perspective. You've just got to look back on what you've written and think, "If I were someone who has never heard of Warhammer 40K, would I understand this?"
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Myself
Yes — it defines what parts of this page are used as an index for other related pages and subpages, as explained on How Indexing Works.
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
Are you sure? Cause I deleted all the [[ index ]] [[/ index ]] from the main page and still all the other pages listed on it have Tabletop Game / Warhammer 40 , 000 at the bottom of there pages.
True. Okay...
When a page's type has the "does indexing" box checked, then by default all bullet points on that page will be included in an index, with the first wiki link in each bullet getting the index bars at the bottom of its page.
Normally, work pages which also serve as indexes only intend to index a few pages on a few bullet points — they have other bullet points that shouldn't be included in the index. This means that you use tags to denote which parts exactly should be included, and stuff outside them is excluded.
By removing the tags altogether, every bullet point is included, so on here stuff like Warhammer 40000 Chaos Gate is still on the index. In that sense, it works fine.
However, although the majority of bullet points here need to be included in the index, there are a few that don't — namely, those in the "Other Websites" folder. One of those bullets has an external link but then a wiki link to Fanon. Now that there are no indexing tags saying that only part of the page should be included, Fanon gets the index bars too, but it's not meant to be indexed here.
I hope that made sense as the rather lengthier explanation. :P To make sure that Fanon is excluded from the index, I've added back the index tags.
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
By defining what you want in the index you exclude what you do not want in said index. OK, I can live with that.
But that means that there is something left to do... The Spin-offs and games that do not have their own pages needs to be excluded too.
Correct; I missed that. Thanks!
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
How durable are Space Marine supposed to be anyways? I heard complaints about how they die so easily in Ultramines The Movie, but how exactly how much abuse are the supposed to be able to take?
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Well, against a baseline human a Space Marine would easily break our spines with a flick of their fingers. The problem is when they're up against Chaos Space Marines of equal strength and toughness, armed with weapons specifically designed to kill other Space Marines... well, it's all relative basically.
In fairness the Chaos Space Marines go down just as easily. The only difference to the movie and Canon is that it should take quite a few bolter rounds or Hits from a chainsaw to pierce power armour, in the movie it just takes one shot/hit.
Does anybody notice that Bloodthirsters seem to shrink at points? There's supposed to be over thirty feet tall, buy Sangiunus is described as taking one at with a backbreaker, and Hector Rex beat An'ggrath by impaling the chest, with no mention of him throwing his sword or jumping into the air.
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I read a 40k book where it specifically describes a blood-thirster shrinking and growing in size at will. The blood-thirster was in the Eye of Terror at the time and most of the book has been declared non-canon now anyway. But there ya go.
I feel like this page gives the "positive" traits of Chaos more credit than their due. 99% of the time, anything devoted to Chaos ends as a Complete Monster, and really Nurgle is only one of the Chaos gods with anything approaching actual redeeming qualities. Why does GW even bother bringing up that Chaos supposedly has positive aspects when their desire to make everything grimdark has them reduced to mostly informed attributes?
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I was under the impression that GW doest really play any of the positive traits up anymore, the positive traits mentioned on this wiki are from the early editions; its still brought up because its arguable that those interpretations are still canon (since its not directly contradicted by the newer editions).
So, I have been wondering about where leaderships rolls should go on this page. I have a little story for you. My brother and my cousin were facing off against my brother's friend (let's call him Joe) in the tabletop game. Joe had space marines and was using terminators. He rushed a Imperial Conscript unit. You can imagine how that went over. Really well! For the Imperial Guard! The Conscripts lost so many units the first term that my brother would have had to roll a 2D2 (snake eyes) to pass the leadership test. And he pulled it off. The next turn. The terminators took enough conscripts out to bring their leadership down to 2 again. My brother rolled a snake eyes! Again! They were wiped out the third turn, but the terminators were held up so long that Joe lost! I feel if that can barely happen in-game, then it can happen in-universe. What trope would that go under?
Don't make me destroy you. @ Castle Series
Should this franchise have its own Complete Monster page? It seems like it has enough examples to qualify.
I noticed Drago getting the hate for beating Mortorian, but really, that's not dumb for those reasons. Hector Rex beat An'ggrath and all that An'ggrath had fought before were a few Grey Knights, and somehow one squad gave him trouble, and Rex wasn't even a Space Marine. Really, people should complain that we have Mortorian getting off his ass and doing so something that hardly seemed to warrant his notice. Also, why does nobody question M'kar nearly killing Drago if beat a primarch? Before anybody talks, yes I know about the stuff in the warp, yeah that's dumb.
Who aggrees that Warhammer High needs its own page.
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Does that even exist? Is that some kind of fanfic about the Emprah's high school days?
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_High
NSFW at the end of the article but actually fairly good
Sorry to necro this, but OH GOD PLEASE!
I would BEG that someone make this. There's entire BOOKS in that series!
Since Troper Tales were ultimately deemed unsuitable for this site, should all the entries in Awesome/Warhammer40000 that are essentially "let me tell you about my army" be expunged?
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I'd be inclined to say yes, but at the same time they're not really hurting anything. I'll speak to the rest of the staff.
Thrower of Rocks
A few days ago, I edited the 'Law of Chromatic Superiority' article to include something that, truth be told, didn't really fit in the discussion.
Any idea what the age studs in the foreheads of any of the Adeptus Astartes would be an example for, trope-wise?
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Where would I be able to find that?
'Non-flammable? Let me see that...'
In the list of tools on the left side of any trope or work page, in the top section.
is All Elite
I still continue to marvel at how big this page has gotten.
"Stealing is a crime and drugs is a crime too BUT if you steal drugs the two crimes cancel out and it’s like basically doing a good."
Hi
Crap, I hit Enter and didn't mean to...at any rate, the intro has turned into a complete wankfest of over-the-top-ness. If you've got an issue with the change, take it up in the Trope Repair Shop thread; the mods are aware of this edit and it's gotten support in the TRS thread and the 40K thread in the Tabletop Games forum.
No longer a forum herald
I know memes might not make everything better, but discussion before you remove something like this is preferred. Here's the original Statler And Waldorf stinger:
Hi
Questions about the quote - is it taken from the main codex? I ask because the preface in the omnibuses has the phrase as "...for in the grim dark future" as opposed to how it is on the page.
Can anyone point me to where I could find more information about the Aspect Warrior game for Sega Mega Drive / Genesis? I've been able to find squat by myself from various video game sites and internet searches.
Why whenever I think of Warhammer 40k I think of Rammstein's Mein Herz Brennt and whenever I think of Infamous I think of Linkin Park's Breaking the Habit?
@ Willbyr:
I suppose now would be a bad time to say I personally prefer colons over hyphens? ;-)
In all seriousness, thank you for doing all that reformatting on the trope entries. I know a lot of people don't like the parentheses, and I was wondering if anyone was going to just bite the bullet one day and reformat everything. I realize how much work it was, and I appreciate the effort.
Perpetually Confused
Changed the image according to the Image Picking board discussion. Feel free to put any other image in the image links wiki.
A real American hero
Incidentally, the White Dwarf battle report I mentioned; I don't have the issue anymore, but I believe the Orks lost by something like 8 victory points to 114 and the other player commented he'd had more Space Marines die in a game of 40K. I also recall an earlier one that might have been a factor when a Nid player won the game by having his Lictor fire Fleshhooks at two seperate targets, since winning the game by forgetting the rules isn't exactly setting a good example.
Edited by Evilest_Tim It is shameful for a demon to be working, but one needs gold even in Hell these days.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Creator/WarhammerPlus
There are times where I wish that there were more people to help with the editing and adding of tropes for the pages in the link above. It seems like I'm the only one whos doing the majority of the work.
Admittedly it is partly because I feel like my English and the way I write are a bit subpar.
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