Discussion Series / TorchwoodMiracleDay

I feel like it bears mentioning that it makes no sense that Jack's blood has any special properties. His immortality is due to being a fixed point in spacetime - he has to exist. Setting aside that the way his immortality works is questionable anyway, one thing that it definitely isn't is biological. Honestly, it could be argued that the style of immortality that the Miracle inflicts on humanity is actually more what he should logically have (simply not being able to cease to be, rather than healing biologically). But even so, the premise of the Miracle relies on his blood, which should not be special.

The question is, what trope could this even be? Is it Artistic License - Biology? Artistic License - Physics? Some kind of inconsistency trope?

• Writers Cannot Do Math: When the characters are doing the math to figure out how the Earth will deal with the extra population they say that 300,000 people die every day. (It's actually about 150,000, but ignore that for the moment.) They treat this as if there are 300,000 new people added to the population each day, when instead with no one dying the population should remain the same. (Plus the birthrate of course.) This means that there will be a population increase, but not nearly as severe as they describe. Explained by SF Debris at 9:05 http://www.sfdebris.com/videos/other/miracleday1.asp

Am I being an idiot here in not seeing this as an example? If there are no longer 300,000, or 150,000 people dying each day, then obviously the population will have a sizable net increase than pre-Miracle Day. The massive amount of births, plus no infant mortality or starvation will have a staggering net growth, if not immediately, then definitely over months or years, not to mention the spread of disease and so forth.

I realise that the Complete Monster trope is generally regarded to be YMMV but surely Oswald Danes is one of the rare cases where one can make an exception? After all, aren't paedophiles Complete Monsters by default? Also not only did he rape Suzie Kabina (sp?), he murdered her and then said "She should have run faster". It's made quite clear that his breakdown in episode two is all a farce and one that Jilly Kitzinger sees through quite clearly. Just thought the matter worth bringing up.

Regarding Category 0 being blatantly unconstitutional (at least, in the United States): while it may be, the argument presented as to why it is is flawed.

First, the acts Oswald Danes committed were already illegal, and punishable by lengthy prison terms at best (Danes himself was sentenced to death - being unrepentant about his acts probably didn't get him much sympathy.). Therefore, the argument that he can't be executed because his acts weren't illegal prior to the Category Zero legislation is wrong.

Secondly, who says that a Category Zero has to be conscious when he's cremated? I wouldn't be surprised if a sufficiently potent mixture of narcotics and anaesthetics were capable of rendering someone unconscious and insensate for the duration of "execution by cremation" - if my research is accurate, the first chemicals injected into a criminal's body during execution by lethal injection are a narcotic/anaesthetic cocktail designed for just that purpose (the chemicals that do the actual killing during the lethal injection process are fast acting, but also cause excruciating pain when used alone, hence why those sentenced to death by lethal injection get the narcotic/anaesthetic shot first).

Has anyone noticed they filmed the actual Ontario International Airport to represent LA Int'l, Buenos Aires Int'l, and Shanghai Int'l airports?

Re: the Idiot Ball entry on the YMMV page, if I remember correctly Maloney just grabbed the gun off of his assistant and shot her quite quickly, so she wasn't lecturing him while he stood there with a gun in his hand. But I don't want to delete it yet because I'm not entirely sure, so I was wondering if anyone could confirm (or deny) that for me? Thanks.