Idiot Plot, Fridge Horror, Nice Job Breaking It, Hero, Genre Blindness: Jack doesn't clue in to the fact that he's got a bomb inside him, having seen similar tech used earlier, then awaking from death next to the corpse of the doctor who he showed and with whom he discussed the relevance to terrorism and racial profiling, so he immediately goes back to Torchwood. Once he discovers the bomb is inside him, he tries to save Gwen and Ianto by leaving The Hub, where he shouldn't have gone in the first place. In the same amount of time they use to escape, he could have left himself, resulting in a much less devastating detonation, and possibly causing some Laser-Guided Karma for those who've used him. Instead, the sum of the legacy of the Torchwood Institute representing 130 years of alien technology are destroyed, including the death of pretty much anyone left inside in a cell or cryostorage, including Susan, Myfanwy, and Grey, his own brother, with no thought of any risk from damaging the rift manipulator. I consider this to be the point where Torchwood jumps the shark, so much so that I believe the only reasonable continuation of the series is to have the crown intervene by reestablishing a Torchwood that uses Jack's vortex manipulator to save Torchwood from Jack's many mistakes without creating a paradox. Forget alien technology- if Torchwood can't protect itself from human schemes and human error with reasonable human technology, it doesn't deserve to exist. From this point forward, Torchwood is expected to protect humanity with hacks and a pair of contact lenses. Davies wrote the series into a corner right here.
More Idiot Plot and Genre Blindness: Jack confronts the 456 and essentially declares war on them knowing full well he doesn't have a way to fight back against them yet. Naturally Everyone Dies including Ianto, but not the one guy who had the savvy to get inside the biohazard suit. This is pretty consistent throughout the show. Dr. Vera Juarez uses this half-cocked "I'll Destroy You" tactic against Colin Maloney so he has her incinerated; Rex Matheson reveals he has Jack's blood in him, resulting in the immediate shooting of Esther Drummond; Rex chases down Charlotte Wills, and only the Superhero Transfusion saves him; even earlier, after Jack lets Dr. Aaron Copley what disarray he's about to put Dr. Copley's life's work, Copley returns with a gun, resulting in the (first) death of Owen Harper.
More Fridge Horror: If the destruction of The Hub is a fixed-point disaster, then it becomes a hotbed for time-traveling con-men to make shady deals in the same fashion as Jack was doing when we first met him, and as a result, the entire archive of Torchwood eventually falls into the hands of the people Jack used to consort with. He may have been Evil All Along.
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Removed in the move from Torchwood S 3 MS Children Of Earth
Is that relevant?
Repair Dont Respond.
So, it's not an example?
Am I the only one that thinks that's reaching out?
I think Breaking the Fellowship (which is already on the page) is closer. Not sure, but as you can probably guess, it ain't permanent.
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It's the point of view of a non-human sentient. There's PROBABLY an example there, but only if we focus on the "what the Doctor must think of all this" part. Humans simply being bastards is not an example.
This is example's a complete mess.
That's not immunity, though, is it? That's just building a chamber that's bulletproof.
Belongs in an Alternative Character Interpretation example, not as natter.
No, they're not. At all. Not even in an off-centre way. Please rewatch the Doctor Who episode "Utopia" explaining the hole "fixed point" and "fact of the timeline" deal and please tell me how you came to that ridiculous and bizarre conclusion.
No, he's not. If he was sacrificed to the 456, they'd be shooting up on him like a drug, not violently killed by the reversed wave.
This at a minimum, needs a rewrite. We DO see bits of the 456 within the "fog", as you put it.
Not removed, but rephrased completely. Taking the children as drugs is hardly powering a machine.
Wow...that doesn't seem worthy of an example at all.
Technically valid, but zero-context.
Not technically sarcastic. In context, they've been talking about Torchwood and aliens for several minutes. If anything, it's a "Not Making This Up" Disclaimer.
Really, really stretching the example. Are we really counting TV captions?
Not an audience reaction trope. Who calls him out for his actions when? That's a valid use of the trope.
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