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bigbangbilly bigbangbilly Since: Nov, 2011
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May 10th 2016 at 9:40:56 PM •••

Although I put it in WMG does the Lit trio count as a Fighter Mage Thief trio

  • Jake Stone stone represent the Fighter as he does resort to physical violence sometimes and is best seen in episode 2 with the sword also [[Genius Bruiser]]. Also the first to resort to physical violence or to grab a weapon.
  • Cassandra Cillian represent the Mage with all the CGI hallucination when she thinks. Although it was a one episode thing she desire magic to heal herself. actually uses magic in the bad future of season 1's finale
  • Ezekiel Jones is the rogue and maybe Token Evil Teammate as he steal stuff a lot. Also he represent the retrieval aspect of the library.

AndyYagami Since: Feb, 2015
Dec 20th 2015 at 9:52:01 PM •••

Why is there no Crowning moment of Heartwarming page? Between the subtle character development that's been series long, the Santa episode and last weeks episode you'd think there would be enough for a page by now. Is there a reason that a page hasn't been created yet?

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Dec 21st 2015 at 2:25:05 AM •••

We don't make CMOA pages anymore, but we do Awesome/ pages.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
AndyYagami Since: Feb, 2015
Dec 21st 2015 at 9:55:28 PM •••

Huh. I'm a little surprised by that. Is it because what constitutes a CMOH is subjective? Or was there just an internal decision to do away with it?

SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Dec 22nd 2015 at 10:45:59 AM •••

Yes, it was renamed to Awesome.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Kitzsah Since: May, 2014
Jan 24th 2015 at 11:51:09 AM •••

Does Cassandra really qualify as a Karma Houdini? She didn't exactly get away with her betrayal without any repercussions, what with Jake saying through most of the season that he doesn't trust her.

Kitzsah Since: May, 2014
Jan 19th 2015 at 7:41:07 AM •••

Do we really still need to mark the sealing of the Library and Cassandra's betrayal as spoilers? I mean, both of these occurred in the pilot.

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Rognik Since: May, 2011
Jan 22nd 2015 at 5:40:33 AM •••

It really does fall into the First-Episode Spoiler category by now (even if the library technically disappears in the second episode). Now that season 1 is over, I think it's safe to unmark it.

MasamiPhoenix Since: Jan, 2001
Jan 20th 2015 at 4:45:23 PM •••

Removed the following

  • Expy:
    • Carsen has turned into an Eleventh Doctor expy, complete with tweed jacket and bow tie.note 
    • More notably, the L.I.T.s are Expys of the three young team members of Leverage. Considering how much of the behind-the-scenes staff is the same, it's to be expected.
      • Ezekiel: playful with oodles of charm and skill, with an ego to match both, a la Hardison complete with hacking skills but he also demonstrates Parker's enthusiasm for a heist. He's essentially Parker and Hardison's love child.
      • Cassandra: a petite woman with mental illness, yet is still the top of her field. Of course, that illness plays a role in why she's the top of her field, and out of it, she's hopeless, much like Parker.
      • Jacob Stone: looks like nothing but Dumb Muscle from the south, but is one hell of a Genius Bruiser, in the vein of Elliot. To top it off, both Jacob and Elliot are played by Christian Kane.

While these are interesting similarities to Leverage, and probably not entirely coincidental, the characters are different enough that they certainly aren't expies, more like shout-outs. Cassandra is only similar to Parker in these broad strokes, their personalities and skillsets are completely different. Similarly, Stone is a lot smarter than Elliot, but not nearly as good in a fight, and has none of Elliot's personality.

Carsen, might be referencing Doctor Who, but that doesn't make him an expy. Also, it could just be the natural evolution of the already easily excited Librarian with 10 years of experience.

Enjoydamoment Since: Mar, 2012
Jan 13th 2015 at 4:32:45 PM •••

Does Cassandra's entree in Refusal of the Call really count as such? She didn't really turn down the opportunity so much as miss it due to be incapacitated. So its not so much like she refused the call so much as she was at the other end of the house and didn't get to the phone in time. What do you guys think?

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Rognik Since: May, 2011
Jan 13th 2015 at 5:33:08 PM •••

I agree it's pretty forced. I tried to modify it a little to make it fit, but it wasn't a good job. Just take out the first line if you're going to cut it out.

Enjoydamoment Since: Mar, 2012
Dec 16th 2014 at 2:36:34 PM •••

Does anyone remember the exact speech that Flynn gave at the end of the first episode, I can only remember enough to paraphrase.

Enjoydamoment Since: Mar, 2012
Dec 15th 2014 at 10:34:06 PM •••

The Annex is specifically said to be located somewhere in Oregon by Flynn. Is that enough to put "The Other Rainforest" down as a trope?

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Dec 15th 2014 at 11:33:05 PM •••

Maybe, although I wouldn't count an offhand mention.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Rognik Since: May, 2011
Dec 15th 2014 at 11:48:53 PM •••

When they emerged from the door, it was a pretty sparse forest. I wouldn't include "The Other Rainforest" until there are dense trees, or some monster living in them.

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