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Astraea802 Since: May, 2020
Feb 27th 2024 at 12:38:25 PM •••

Question: Is Jordan developing powers still spoiler-tagged or not?

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brightfan99 Since: Jul, 2022
Oct 5th 2022 at 7:06:52 AM •••

So since the show is no longer set on Earth-Prime and these characters are separate versions from the one seen on Supergirl, shouldn't a new character page be made for them? Or has there already been a discussion about it?

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MasterHero Since: Aug, 2014
Oct 5th 2022 at 10:18:58 AM •••

Yes, I believe we should get a different character page, but the Arrowverse has entire pages dedicated to the characters, regardless of the universe they come from (blame the crossover specials for that).

brightfan99 Since: Jul, 2022
Oct 6th 2022 at 5:35:29 AM •••

Yes but what I mean is shouldn't all the Superman & Lois exclusive tropes and characters be moved onto one character page and it's connection to the Arrowverse be removed outside the acknowledgement that it's an AU like the other non-Arrowverse shows?

MasterHero Since: Aug, 2014
Oct 6th 2022 at 1:00:05 PM •••

Probably, but you would need to discuss it with the moderators.

MasterHero Since: Aug, 2014
Mar 11th 2021 at 9:04:44 PM •••

What the Hell, Hero? was added to the recap pages of Heritage and The Perks of Not Being A Wallflower.

In the "Heritage page", What the Hell, Hero? was written with the following context: "General Sam Lane is not happy with Clark telling his sons that he is Superman, going so far as accusing him of having destroyed their childhoods."

I had originally removed What the Hell, Hero? from the trope list, as I understand it, What the Hell Hero? only applies when the hero gets called out for acting in a morally questionable or borderline villainous manner, but troper Forenperser added back with the following reason: "Id say accusing Clark of destroying his sons childhoods very much qualifies as 'villainous' (from Sams perspective)"

I get that Sam is just trying to look after his grandchildren in his own way, but in the series, Sam treats Superman like a weapon that he can deploy whenever the U.S. Army can't handle a metahuman problem, to the point that he tells Lois that he thinks that Superman shouldn't have a normal life, not to mention that the Stranger/Captain Luthor is trying to convince Sam that Superman is a disaster waiting to happen.

As for "The Perks of Not Being A Wallflower", What the Hell, Hero? has this context: "Both Jordan and Jonathan are not happy to learn that Clark essentially spies on them with his super hearing. They're particularly not amused when Clark pulls a You Didn't Ask when confronted about how he keeps track of them."

I think this example is just unfair towards Clark. He was merely using his super-hearing in order to listen to his sons' problems at school. Jordan was being bullied and about to use his admittedly weak heat vision on a bully and it was only through Clark's intervention that bullies backed off. While Jonathan and Jordan were justifiably angry that Clark was spying on them, especially because Clark had done the same with Lois years ago, the original problem still stands: Jonathan and Jordan only got out of trouble because Clark bailed them out, not to mention that Jordan's hybrid physiology makes it difficult for the Kents to predict when or how will his powers manifest. What was Clark supposed to do? Just stand by and wait for the problem to get worse?

So, what do you think?

Edited by MasterHero
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