Discussion Series / QI

Eh, I don't think so. We don't have to discuss the topics of an episode itself

Creating recap pages and an index for them seems fine for me, though.

The page itself says "A, B, C, Bob." In the case of QI, it's Guest, Guest, Guest, Alan Davies. Stephen Fry will often introduce the three guests in glowing terms along a theme, and then rescind that theme for Alan, implying that Alan isn't as smart or famous or whatever as the other three ("Three tenors and a fiver")

It's Group A, Group B, Group Group Group because sometimes it is Ladies And Gentlemen or some other way of making the group but it still works by making the group and then making the individual stick out of it.

"Human and congressman", "Everybody worth mentioning and Crusader", "My friends and Zoidberg". They all work in exactly the same way. They say the group and then the individual, this is different from saying a theme and then rescinding that theme.

The trope is they say "Group and Individual" to imply the individual is not a member of that group. None of that happens here. You actually can't say that happens, none of your arguments contain those words.

There is no group, there is no joke by the implication: it works by explicitly treating Alan Davies differently.

Um... I can only assume you don't watch the show, since the entire POINT of those intro's is "Everybody worth mentioning and Alan Davies."

The "Group" is the Guests, Alan is the Individual. I think it was the Future episode, as an example, which was, in essence, three very smart people "...and Alan Davies, who has also turned up."

"Three astronauts and one astro-minus-twenty-five" "Three tenors and a fiver" "the rarest of truffles, David Mitchell; [can't decipher what he's saying about Rich Hall], the strangest of fruit Jimmy Carr;...and something furry that's fallen behind the oven and the dishwasher, Allen Davies."

Not to mention Alan's weird buzzer compared to others.

The "point" isn't the issue. If it's only that The Last Of These Is Not Like The Others then that's that but My Friends... and Zoidberg is the specific version where you say a group's name (that's "saying the actual name" not implying it is there, saying the actual group name e.g. Humanity, Loved Ones) and then subvert the encompassing aspect of the group by mentioning the individual.

I don't see why this point isn't getting through. It's a phrasing, it's a standard format. Saying the group and then an individual is different from setting up a pattern and then serving away from it. It has to have "My Friends" and then "And Zoidberg". The page explicitly says and has said for years " A character lists one or more groups or categories (not individuals) [emphasis added]".

The example on the page was closer to Bread, Eggs, Milk, Squick.

Well, it's not Bread, Eggs, Milk, Squick, because that the trope for "When a mundane conversation goes bad."

I'll stick it under The Last Of These Is Not Like The Others for now...

My Friends... and Zoidberg would be "Let's meet our panellists and Alan Davies".

British spelling, I suppose, since QI is a British show. Similarly, both spellings of "program"/"programme" are used on this page. I imagine tropers are just used to spelling words one way or another, though I never thought of that as an eyesore. Feel free to fix them. :)

Spelling conventions should be consistent across a page. I've taken the liberty to "correct" "panelist" into "panellist" and "program" into "programme." If you want to do further such revisions, I recommend that you pick the British spelling convention on this page, as it is about a British show and thus more likely to be read and edited by people who observe British spelling conventions. If you could use a dictionary to determine which spelling is used in Britain, that would be great.

The issue is that you forgot to do [[/folder]] at the bottom of the folders. I've fixed it for you.

Thanks!

The giant panda.

Er... no idea. He was in it, but he's better known for Gavin and Stacey or even Would I Lie To You

I agree - Phill does his "I'm aroused by that/he's aroused by that" schtick nearly once an episode.

Maybe. Some of the guests (e.g. Bill Bailey) have their own pages already, though.

The regulars and frequent guests (defined for argument's sake as guests who have appeared at least twice) with their own pages are Stephen Fry, Bill Bailey, David Mitchell, Lee Mack and Ross Noble. Of course shows like Top Gear and Whose Line Is It Anyway who also have character pages may account for a few more.