Discussion Series / Elementary

I'm proposing that on the character page, all spoilers from the first season be left unmarked. The Moriarty entry is particularly bad for obvious reasons. About half the entries are covered by spoiler tags, and the names of the tropes gives away the spoiler anyways.

Yanked this misuse of Getting Crap Past the Radar:

• Getting Crap Past the Radar: Sherlock and the "cocks" from "The One Percent Solution".
  • Up To Eleven with Watson, who "doesn't care which cock she's holding". Even Sherlock gives her "the look".

It's a show for adults that airs late on weekdays. I strongly doubt there's much of a Radar to Get Crap Past. And the Double Entendre/Inherently Funny Words is both blatantly obvious and the entire joke, so if there was a Radar, it would've been set off by it.

Something that comes to mind is the Ship Tease. They can't entirely keep a female Watson and a male Holmes away from a relationship as well as they think they can if Executive Meddling has anything to do with it, especially if the executives believe they would work together well as a couple. That's the concern.

Why the change of images?

Sherlock thinks that a missing man may view a reporter as a potential romantic interest as, from the information gleaned earlier, she is the guy's 'type.' Sherlock puts this across as, "You're bespectacled, you're lean and yet possessed of an alluring curve of flank..." Compliment Backfire? The woman takes a moment to realise what he's saying, but quickly moves the conversation on. Joan also gives a sort-of Eye Take. It's not necessarily outright insulting, but it's quite forward and utilising Holmes' fondness for Sesquipedalian Loquaciousness.

Okay seriously, would you consider Watson a Hysterical Woman? I saw an Elementary entry on that page and I promptly deleted it. They also said something about changing Watson from a veteran to a surgeon who quit because she couldn't deal with the stress was Unfortunate Implications (well's there's already something wrong with there because she actually quit due to guilt over killing a patient).

However I then thought I'll run it by a discussion forum. In my opinion,no. She's prone to frustration yes but that's usually reserved with dealing with freaking Sherlock Holmes. Most of the time she's incredibly calm and level-headed despite all her new experiences.

If I'm really wrong here, then I'll put the entry back in.

• When Watson starts to worry about Holmes' health (with him being awake two or three days in a row), he answers "Sleep and food deprivation made Sherlock a dull boy."

This can't be confirmed as a shout-out to The Shining. "All work and no play makes ___ a dull boy" (typically the name "Jack" is used) is a much older proverb, dating back to the mid 1600s. Whether or not it's a shout-out is YMMV — does this Holmes seem like the Stephen King and/or horror movie type, or would he only know it as a much older reference.

Slightly iffy question - Shout-Out to Sherlock when Elementary's Holmes says that boredom is bad for his health? Seeing how much trouble Sherlock's Sherlock gets into when he's bored, not to mention the blatent lack of gun safety... Or is this just hinting that they have similar tastes since they are similar characters and purely coincidental/unintentional?

Also, is there a trope where The Hero starts passing on their skills to The Lancer? Watson is getting very Sherlockified. In You Do It To Yourself, she mimics the seemingly random spread of paper on the floor and lists various observations. They kind of bounce off each other, having very similar chains of thought until Sherlock gets a bit personal.

Character Development: Although he still thinks very highly of himself, Holmes finds it increasingly easier to admit that he is sometimes wrong, especially when Watson is right. It might be that he has gotten to know her (as we, the viewers have got to know him) or it might be him finally opening up after his stint in rehab. Thoughts?

The Sherlock Scan being hard to see is right the first time whatever object is seen on-screen, but whenever a Sherlock-scanned item is relevant to the plot, it gets shown in a flashback with a weird filter. So... Crowning Moment of Awesome when Joan reveals how she found Sherlock's actor friend and gets the same Sherlock Scan filter?

Also, would it count as a Stealth Pun that when Sherlock was repeatedly saying, "Irene," he was described as being 'addled.' Irene Adler being a character from the Doyle canon.

In "while you were sleeping", Sherlock makes a short speech: "From a drop of water a logician could infer the possibility of an Atlantic or a Niagara without having seen or heard of one or the other" It's a word for word quote from Holme's manuscript that Watson sees in "A Study in Scarlet" (They may have changed the bodies of water — I'm not certain)

Not sure if the Actor Allusion examples count. They're more likely coincidence. It's not like they made Holmes an addict because Jonny Lee Miller played a junkie, and I doubt they cast Miller just because he had played a junkie before. Also Watching the Detectives is a logical song for a show about detectives... since the song is about watching crime shows on TV.