Isn't this trope a bit older then that? The Pelopenessian War inspired a lot of plays of that kind.
Cutlery War Veteran
Why does this section ban real life examples but not War is Glorious? It makes very little sense.
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because butthurt surfaces easier when people talk of losses or lost emotions, I suppose?
The NoMouth Nocturnal
For a potential Real Life example, Zlata Filipović made this quote: "War has nothing to do with humanity. War is something inhuman." I made it as my signature because I thought it could gain some attention in that way. p.s. Btw, she survived a war that affected Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovnia and has a diary.
Edited by RicaCriscia "War has nothing to do with humanity. War is something inhuman." - Zlata Filipovich
I moved this comment here from the main article. As discussed below I also moved it over to War Is Glorious.
- YMMV, as the events were not a war but a single raid, the raid is usually considered as an example of extreme heroism given the situation, and the situation on the ground was quite different from the political shockwave back home. The 180 man raid was able to oppose approximately 3,000-5,000 combatants and still complete the mission despite things going very, very wrong at every step. Both the book and film depict the horror of the mission but also the extraordinary success and tenacity of the Americans in completing the raid. Neither really takes much of a look at the consequences of having less than two hundred men engage in a firefight with several thousand of your people - and kill somewhere between 700 and 3,000 of them. Regardless, even with serious problems in command and control hindering the raid, it was considered a major coup to pull it off.
After some thought, removing the conflicting comment about Black Hawk Down to the discussion page. Rather than the article arguing against itself it might be more useful to discuss the heroic aspects of the filn in War Is Glorious. I think the original comment is a fair expression of one side of the film. As the main text notes, these two tropes turn up together all the time. I moved it over in modified form: I think there were some real-world facts: the trope example is not addressing the real world history.
Edited by Camacan
I'd just like to point out that the quote page for this article is freaking awesome. It seems a lot more creators get passionate about this kind of thing that I realized.
And then everybody died. The end.