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kkj12345 General Since: May, 2021
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Nov 28th 2022 at 6:22:55 PM •••

Yeah, I didn't know some surnames are also given names and vice versa.

SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 20th 2021 at 10:03:49 AM •••

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Not Tropeworthy, started by Discar on May 18th 2014 at 10:14:59 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Psychopompos007 Since: Apr, 2011
Dec 8th 2019 at 1:57:42 AM •••

I'm not sure if it would deserve a mention in the main page (since it's explicitly written that the only Real Life examples accepted are pseudonyms), but I would like to point this trope is actually very common in real life in France. According to this site ( https://blogs.ancestry.com/cm/4-types-of-french-surnames-which-one-is-yours/ ), the 10 most common French surnames of people born between 1891 and 1990 include 6 of them: Martin (1), Bernard (2), Thomas (3), Robert (5), Richard (6), and Laurent (10 - it's the French equivalent of "Lawrence").

It's commonly believed in France that people with Two First Names get their surname from an abandoned child as their oldest identified ancestor (abandoned children were named after the saint of the day they were given to the hospice).

Edited by Psychopompos007
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Aug 9th 2015 at 2:15:53 AM •••

Re blanking and cut request: The crowner is actually showing opposition to a cut.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Tightwire Since: Apr, 2014
Jul 12th 2014 at 4:05:17 PM •••

I'm writing out a character called Casey Ellis Ashton. All potentially first names. But they have nothing to do with the character himself. The only point about choosing the name is that he's got three gender ambiguous names, not that he has a potential first name for a last name.

This really isn't much of a trope, since it doesn't affect the character or the plot.

Edited by 86.19.128.133
Cameoflage Cesare Impersonator Since: Jan, 2001
Cesare Impersonator
Oct 8th 2011 at 6:57:17 PM •••

Okay, there was a blatant invitation on the page to discuss my experiences with the trope here (apparently discussion pages are the new Troper Tales), so I'm going to do precisely that. My family name is Bruce. I might personally be disqualified on account of having a girl's name, but all the men on my dad's side of the family have Two First Names, like Ian Bruce and Louis Bruce.

Kkachi Since: Jan, 2001
Jul 21st 2011 at 9:31:03 AM •••

I notice someone had added Amy Lee to the real names list and wrote that her birth name was Amy Hartzler. Her birth name is Amy Lee, which should disqualify her from this trope, since she didn't give herself the name.

urutapu Since: Jan, 2001
May 30th 2011 at 7:23:39 PM •••

Do we have a trope for "two last names", e.g. Harrison Ford?

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Kkachi Since: Jan, 2001
Jun 23rd 2011 at 10:40:23 PM •••

That's an interesting idea but in America, people have been given last names as first names for a while, like Taylor Swift, Parker Posey and Mc Kenzie Phillips. After a while, they'll be accepted as first names.

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Kkachi Since: Jan, 2001
Jun 24th 2010 at 6:11:55 AM •••

I notice someone had added Anglina Jolie to the real names list. I realize that "Jolie" is Angelina Jolie's real middle name, but "Jolie" is not a common recognizable first name, so I don't think this should qualify as "two first names".

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