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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 22nd 2021 at 10:28:14 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Cleanup ("Nakama" is still all over the page), started by Balmung on Jul 19th 2011 at 7:25:01 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Czigot Since: Aug, 2015
Dec 28th 2017 at 1:00:49 PM •••

"This sort of group dynamic appeals to younger audiences who are unfamiliar with romance, and appeals to older audiences who live in a world of complex relationships and convenience masqueraded as False Friendship, who are feeling nostalgic about the times when friendship meant a lifelong bond."

This paragraph about audience appeal and the cynical nature of friendship doesn't seem relevant.

Vilui Since: May, 2009
Jul 3rd 2012 at 11:18:50 AM •••

"This trope was originally known as Nakama, a Japanese word that many Westerners mistakenly think means a deep friendship with a dedication akin to family." So — what does it actually mean?

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Zeke Since: Jan, 2001
Nov 3rd 2012 at 11:36:29 PM •••

I had the same reaction, so I did some digging. The edit I just made should explain it pretty well. Here's a source.

FiveMinute.net: because stuff is long and life is short
loracarol Loracarol Since: Sep, 2009
Loracarol
Nov 7th 2010 at 7:52:44 PM •••

I really want to change the image to one from Toy Story 3 after watching the ending. Someone, please talk me out of it. T_T

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64.26.156.4 Since: Dec, 1969
Dec 10th 2010 at 8:16:36 AM •••

The Three Musketeers are more important. There, did that convince you?

loracarol Since: Sep, 2009
Dec 10th 2010 at 3:42:17 PM •••

A little.... But, here's my (honest) question- in the book, are they actually friends? Or do they just know each other/work together?

Worldmaker Since: Jun, 2010
Dec 15th 2010 at 10:31:48 AM •••

Yes, they are actually friends. That's the entire point.

Read the book. Jeez...

Being in a Japanese-produced work is not enough of a difference to warrant its own trope.
loracarol Since: Sep, 2009
Dec 15th 2010 at 10:12:26 PM •••

Alright. XD

Though, honestly, you do not have to be so rude. Currently I am in my senior HS year, and working on 5 IB courses so right now reading a brick like The Three Muskateers is not on my 'to do' list unless it's assigned.

Get some non-rudeness. Jeez...

See, it doesn't feel very nice, does it? :-/

Worldmaker Since: Jun, 2010
Jan 12th 2011 at 1:37:04 PM •••

Actually it has no effect on me emotionally at all, so it doesn't "feel" like anything. Just read the book already.

Being in a Japanese-produced work is not enough of a difference to warrant its own trope.
loracarol Since: Sep, 2009
Jan 12th 2011 at 3:18:45 PM •••

...I would love to, IF I ACTUALLY HAD THE TIME. ^_~ I don't right now. Sorry about that, but you don't know my schedule, and I don't know yours. Okay?

OwnersInc Since: Sep, 2010
Feb 22nd 2011 at 3:51:07 PM •••

I do know your schedule. 6 IB courses + EE and TOK. Reading the three musketeers must always come first.

Prepare to be owned
loracarol Since: Sep, 2009
ShinyAeon Since: Jan, 2001
May 1st 2011 at 11:01:10 PM •••

loracarol: The Three Musketeers, unlike many classics, actually reads pretty swiftly - it's basically a nineteenth-century version of a thriller/adventure/buddy movie. I found the second half, especially, so fast-paced and tense that I couldn't put it down. When you DO have time, give it a try. As for whether or not they're friends...well, they DID invent the saying "All for one, and one for all," which is basically the essence of the nakama spirit.

TheArchitectWriterXIII Since: Oct, 2010
Nov 11th 2011 at 9:38:40 PM •••

Shoulda read it in elementary like me. Much more time. :) Besides I think Three Musketeers is better visual example plus a commonly known one.

TheArchitectWriterXIII Since: Oct, 2010
Nov 11th 2011 at 9:44:43 PM •••

So...yup.

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ninjadinosaurgirl Since: Mar, 2011
Dec 23rd 2011 at 7:23:16 PM •••

Oh my God, this sounds like a You Tube comments section. If loracarol doesn't want to/have time to read The Three Musketeers, he/she doesn't have to. Some people are faster readers than others. No need to be rude about it, he/she was just asking a question. End of discussion.

Noah1 Since: Oct, 2011
Apr 1st 2012 at 6:41:01 AM •••

@ Loracarol: You could put the Toy Story 3 image in the Film section.

Edited by Noah1 An open mind and compassionate heart are among the most important qualities we can have.
Kanangra Since: Feb, 2011
Apr 25th 2011 at 6:42:37 PM •••

This page needs a serious cleanup. In the Live Action TV section I see, at the very least, Lost and Red Dwarf mentioned twice.

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OriDoodle Since: Nov, 2010
Feb 6th 2012 at 12:40:36 PM •••

I'll get on it, but post cleanup requests in the wiki-talk section in the forums. (natter Alert is a good thread to go to for this)

Doodles
Camacan MOD Since: Jan, 2001
Dec 2nd 2011 at 6:07:14 AM •••

Seems a bit too much of a stretch.

  • Carl Sagan eloquently made the case in his "Pale Blue Dot" speech that the entire human race ought to feel this way:
    Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.... [F]or the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.

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Yuoaman Since: Mar, 2010
Dec 31st 2011 at 1:12:09 PM •••

I don't see it that way, but I suppose it doesn't quite fit the definition.

DynamicDragon Since: Oct, 2011
Jun 6th 2011 at 5:59:40 AM •••

Anyone else think this ought to be divided into sub-pages? It's getting pretty long

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ButterKit Since: Jul, 2010
Dec 19th 2011 at 9:19:14 AM •••

I... uh... I actually have a really weird argument against that... ^^; when I finished reading the entire page, and had every single subsection open, it made me squee to see how long it is. So unless it gets considerably even longer, I'd say it's not worth the effort per squee-unit payoff of having to open subpages, even though subpages look smaller but feel bigger. But you can ignore this if you like ^^;

Yuoaman Since: Mar, 2010
Dec 31st 2011 at 1:10:19 PM •••

I get the feeling that any longer would just be unmanageable. Splitting it up is at least worth considering.

FallenLegend Lucha Libre goddess Since: Oct, 2010
Lucha Libre goddess
Oct 12th 2011 at 10:44:05 PM •••

I have a little probem with the definition. It says "It is a relationship considered to be deeper than mere friendship but more innocent than romance."

Friendship is a kind of love as well. It (phileo) shoulnd't be confused with storge.

Who says frienship in't as deep as family? (in it's normal state?).David and Jonathan anyone?, who says romance is not inocent?.

I suggest that this part should be rephrased.

Edited by FallenLegend Make your hearth shine through the darkest night; let it transform hate into kindness, evil into justice, and loneliness into love. Hide / Show Replies
TheArchitectWriterXIII Since: Oct, 2010
Nov 11th 2011 at 9:51:20 PM •••

Good point but Love isn't necessarily always a romance.

ButterKit Since: Jul, 2010
Dec 19th 2011 at 9:20:51 AM •••

"deeper than mere acquaitnaceship but less sexual than romance" is I believe what it means, but that sounds way less poetic...

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Jul 17th 2011 at 2:15:58 PM •••

Just dropping by to say that there's a double Lost example, but since I do not watch the series, I have no idea which one should be removed.

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QueenUltima Since: Jul, 2011
Jul 14th 2011 at 11:00:33 PM •••

Little Mistake on the Final Fantasy VIII spoiler section: It's not that most of the characters are related, but that most of them grew up in the same orphanage.

Also, can the Foxhound unit from Last Days of Foxhound be a subversion, since they are forced together as a group, have a love/hate relationship that burrows into each of them, and the ending specifically shows they fought/died for the same thing.

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YamiiDenryuu Since: Jan, 2010
Jul 15th 2011 at 6:15:44 AM •••

You could just fix those yourself, you know.

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