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MistressFi Since: Jul, 2019
Feb 9th 2020 at 11:09:36 AM •••

With regard to Disney's Frozen, isn't "Elsa has the most traumatic backstory of the Disney Princesses" a little subjective?

No one's saying that what she went through wasn't traumatic, but apart from trying to control her powers and having accidentally injured her sister when they were younger, she was still living as a princess being tended to by servants in a royal palace, with loving parents who did everything in their power to help and support her. Snow White and Cinderella (raised in isolation as orphanned scullery maids in their own homes, despite both being of noble birth) and possibly Rapunzel (was kidnapped as an infant, kept isolated from the world, and emotionally abused by someone who was secretly using her for her magic powers) could all be said to be on par with the kind of upbringing Elsa experienced, if not worse.

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Stoogebie Since: Apr, 2011
Jun 10th 2013 at 8:54:15 PM •••

So if something bad happens to a character in the thirteenth chapter of the book, it's obviously this trope. Would it also count as an Arc Number?

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MyFinalEdits (Ten years in the joint)
Jun 10th 2013 at 9:50:53 PM •••

Arc Number is when a number, any number, is meaningfully connected to the story, so I would say no.

135 - 169 - 273 - 191 - 188 - 230 - 300
DaibhidC Wizzard Since: Jan, 2001
Wizzard
Aug 22nd 2012 at 12:50:34 PM •••

  • Rincewind from the Discworld novels was born on, you guessed it, the thirteenth.

Can't find a record of this anywhere (just that his star sign is The Small, Boring Group of Faint Stars). In Discworld terms, it'd be more appropriate for him to be born on the eighth, surely?

kohakuhoshi Since: Jun, 2010
Mar 19th 2012 at 5:14:06 PM •••

My apartment building has a 13th floor.

I'm not mean I just have a low tolerance for bullshit
SilverShoelaces I get a title? Since: Jul, 2009
I get a title?
Dec 1st 2010 at 12:36:08 PM •••

So in Judaism, 13 is a very, very good number because of this crazy Kabbalistic numerology practice. Many of God's names turn out to be multiples of 13, and the Hebrew word for love, ahavah (אהבה), is exactly 13 as well. Are there any instances you guys can recall in which this trope is averted or subverted in favor of this gematria thing?

Ooh, and I get a signature. Just like a forum! Oh wait.
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