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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 23rd 2021 at 10:54:43 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Rename "The Worm Guy", started by Evilest_Tim on Feb 9th 2010 at 6:38:47 AM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 23rd 2021 at 7:00:59 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Hey, guys, guess what this means?, started by Lullabee on Oct 16th 2010 at 9:39:44 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
MarvelGirl Since: Apr, 2009
Feb 15th 2013 at 10:29:00 PM •••

Does this page need a new title? If the site is trying to get rid of ridiculously obscure titles like 'The Libby' and 'The Wesley', shouldn't this page fall into that category? Even people who watched that awful G.I.N.O. are unlikely to know what this title refers to, while at least anyone who watched Star Trek:TNG would know Wesley, and anyone who watched Alex Mack or Sabrina would know Libby.

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nootnoot Since: Jul, 2015
Jul 29th 2015 at 2:18:07 AM •••

I'm not sure. The titles to me are most helpful when they point to a key and memorable instance of the trope involved, regardless of the recognition factor. However, that's a personal perspective, unrelated to any site-wide drives.

This title, for example - I didn't recognize the worm guy reference, but after the first few paragraphs was caught up with the gist of it, and found the story to be instructive in what this trope is about. Worm guy studied worms, tiny ground-dwellers (perfect symbolism for that which is overlooked by most), and the name itself represents worm guy's name being forgotten.

I guess as an alternative this could be titled, "Metaphorically Myopic Scientist Saves The Whole Damn Day After Terrible Ordeal Whereby They Are Abducted Into Some Military Or Other Hierarchical Institution Only To Be Ignored For What Seemed Like Hours".

Military people collecting oddball, esoteric-focus scientists only to ignore them right up until they "I was right all along!" their way into success perhaps is maybe too specific.

It really is a frankentrope, isn't it. Composed of "Science Hero" + "Unlikely Hero" + "Wise Council Ignored" + "Reluctant Mad Scientist" (see the neutral will-work-for-food-and-funding "morality") + some kind of military abduction, no-civilians-anymore, post-WWII "homefront" mentality.

There is a fine line between enough specificity to be a trope distinct from others, and too much specificity to be a trope worth mentioning, but I guess I would cut out at least one main criterion (or demote it to defining some sub-trope), whether that be the military abduction part, or the "turns out to be correct" part. Perhaps it could just be about scientists being absconded away into larger institutions in situations of dubious consent.

One last try at renaming it:

"Suddenly Relevant Special Interest Captive Scientist"

"Scientist As Pokémon For Institutions"

"Battle Boffins"

"The Worm Guy II"

Edited by nootnoot
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