I agree. In fact, The Three Faces of Eve can also have a male counterpart with the Husband, the Seductor, and the Child.
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I, for one, like this article. I think, however, that it is not a counterpart to The Three Faces of Eve, instead I think it is personifications of the three acts of The Hero's Journey.
Hunter- the hero early in the story, he doesn't have a place in his life, the Call to Adventure appeals to his lack of identity or satisfaction with his life.
Lord- the hero after he has entered the underworld, while in the underworld he is faced with choices, trials, and responsibilities that shape him and test his character.
Prophet- this represents the hero post-resurrection, he has the boon, or elixir, and he brings it back to his world to share it with others. In many cases, the boon is knowledge.
If something like that could be added to the article, I feel it would be more clear.
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Can someone delete this garbage? Seriously, who came up with this rubbish?
The Three Faces of Eve is an established cliche/convention started in mythology and based mostly on the concept of the Neopagan triple goddess. Just because some of the examples were retconned into fitting doesn't mean it's any less valid and has been around for at least the better half of the century.
This is just a pointless attempt to make a Spear Counterpart to a trope and seems to have no grounding in anything other than some random troper wanting a Spear Counterpart for The Three Faces of Eve.
Note that there actually is a male counterpart to the triple goddess, but he's a Horned Humanoid and doesn't really make as unique an archetype enough to constitute being a trope on his own.
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It may be contrived and artificial, but it seems to have the examples to back it up...
Of course, if I had been the one to contrive this (which I am not), I probably would've used Heinlein's three male heroic archetypes...
There is a fine line between recklessness and courage — Paul McCartney
You know, we could have an exact male counterpart to The Three Faces of Eve these days:
- The child, childlike and innocent (covers both actual children and man-children)
- The competent and sensible man (also comes in both child and grown-up form, at least in Western media)
- The beefcake
Not this trope at all, but it's an exact converse, and I know for a fact examples of all three can be found in media!
There is a fine line between recklessness and courage — Paul McCartney
I made the cut listing, so I'll chime in to concur with etliay. The problem with this page is twofold: firstly, it gives the impression that this of-the-cuff phrase has the same pedigree and widespread usage as The Three Faces of Eve. Secondly, the author has decided on what archetypes they want and then gone cherrypicking for examples. When The Three Faces of Eve appear in three female characters its because the scriptwriter had the mythical archetype in mind. When this artificial pattern appeara, its only conincidental and would not even occur to someone who hadn't read this page.
I may have to concur with Anonymous Mc Cartneyfan, particularly since Saiyuki already has the three examples Anonymous Mc Cartneyfan spoke of: childlike and innocent Goku, competent and sensible Hakkai and beefcake Gojyo, already listed in The Three Faces of Eve page as a Gender-Inverted Trope, but I digress.
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How do they form a trinity? The "examples which back things up" would be examples that form three faces for a single body, sides of the same dice. But we have characters like Luke, Vader and Obi-Wan or Sam, Aragorn and Gandalf who have very different plot roles, relationships to the main character and story trajectories. This is like the number 23: give me anything and I can connect it to a prime number. I mean just look at that example above: the page says Luke, Vader and Obi-Wan, the guy above gave me Luke, Vader and Han. Why the disparity? Because the selection is ultimately arbitrary. Might as well be Luke, Wedge and Chewbacca.
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Actually a male form of The Three Faces of Eve would be
- The male friend in Childhood Friend Romance or brotherly character in Like Brother and Sister
- The bread winning husband as opposed to Unconfessed Unemployment or The Everyman in the Dom Com
- The sexual and independent bachelor.
The trope description makes me wonder, is "faces" a misspelling? Was this supposed to be called The Three Phases Of Adam? That would make more sense.
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An interesting point, but I don't think that would be necessary. The Distaff Counterpart trope, The Three Faces of Eve, could be described in the same way: the child, the seductress, and the mother could easily represent three phases in an individual woman's life. The other Distaff Counterpart trope, The Hecate Sisters, could easily be seen the same way.
A google search for Three Faces Of Adam turns up this and nothing else.
Is it me, or was this page made up on the spot for the sake of having a counterpart to The Three Faces of Eve despite having non of the pre-existing significance of that term? Most of the examples are really reaching and look like they were cobbled together to fit the trope rather than the other way around.
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Yeah, I agree, most examples are oblivous to the importance of age (sometimes children are placed as prophets and adults as hunters as in the case of Avatar the airbender) or features (as in heroes where Peter is placed as a seflish hunter)
What if, instead of The Three Faces of Eve, the Distaff Counterpart to this Trope were:
The Huntress
The Lady
and The Prophetess?
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