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DaibhidC Wizzard Since: Jan, 2001
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Jul 16th 2016 at 9:48:35 AM •••

I'm not sure I understand what the The Order of the Stick entry is trying to say. If it's that Durkon's "turn undead" gag early on was intentional set up for ... recent events ... I find that unlikely.

Sometimes a Call-Back doesn't indicate a masterplan, just a creator who decides to build on something they wrote earlier. And I'm not even sure this qualifies as a Call-Back. (Contrary to what the entry seems to be saying, the phrase "turn undead" isn't actually used.)

Edited by DaibhidC
Lupus27 Since: Apr, 2009
Dec 24th 2012 at 1:32:55 PM •••

There's an enormous text block under LOST that makes a bunch of massive claims and doesn't really back any of them up. Maybe we should do something about it?

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Telcontar MOD Since: Feb, 2012
Dec 24th 2012 at 1:53:43 PM •••

Yeah, that's a bit much. Pulling here for it to be trimmed, indented properly, and sourced.

  • No matter what some people may claim, there has always been evidence that Lost showrunners Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse have always known where the show was going, or at least the major plot points and twists. The misconception that they're "making it up as they go along" came from the stalling during season 2 where they were unable to reveal anything major without knowing how much longer the series would last.
    • Well, they've known since around mid-season 1, at least. They've confirmed several times in interviews that they hadn't worked out the show's main mythology until they knew the show would actually last more than twelve episodes.
    • Jacob and The Man In Black are foreshadowed in the pilot; they weren't named by that point, but they did have plans for a personification of light and dark to appear.
    • This isn't entirely accurate. JJ Abrams was in charge of S1 and S2. Lindelof and Cuse didn't take over until S3 and have since made it clear that they had no idea what they were doing the entire time. They have openly admitted to making the middle of S3 as bad as possible so that the network would give them an end date. The network did so after the horrendous Jack episode regarding his tattoos. Then the writers strike ruined most of their plans for S4 and also meant a shortened season. Lindelof has admitted numerous times since LOST finished that he hated writing for the show and had no clue what to do. He even admitted he kept coming up with more and more ridiculous plots in the hope of the show being axed, but fans simply kept eating it all up. He and Cuse became fairly irritated with fans asking about previous plot points possibly being solved, even quipping at one time they had no intention of ever answering everything (despite most of the promotion/marketing and hype surrounding the show was finding out all answers!) Cuse has barely spoken about LOST since it ended, same goes for most of the actors involved. It's safe to say this show was NOT planned in advance in any way, shape or form and all the unanswered questions would appear to suggest that the producer most certainly did not think of everything.

That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
Lupus27 Since: Apr, 2009
Dec 25th 2012 at 3:51:36 PM •••

I don't even know where to begin sourcing most of this.

TheBaronFlambo Since: Mar, 2012
Mar 11th 2012 at 7:50:18 PM •••

Does Mad Men fit into this trope? I don't know anyone on/involved with the production (particularly the writing) personally, but it seems as though they've thought of everything. The storyline deals with SEVERAL characters, each of which is unique and has lots of depth, and there's never anything inconsistent.

PoochyEXE Since: Sep, 2010
Jan 29th 2012 at 9:27:01 PM •••

Would story-specific elements in video games go here, or under The Dev Team Thinks of Everything alongside the engine/program/etc. examples?

Edit: I'll just stick them in here for now, since they can be easily moved if my guess turns out to be incorrect (for which I'll apologize in advance).

Edited by PoochyEXE Extra 1: Poochy Ain't Stupid
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