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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 22nd 2021 at 8:07:23 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Aversions?, started by muninn on Mar 20th 2011 at 9:57:30 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Headrock Since: Apr, 2009
Nov 4th 2015 at 9:08:50 PM •••

This was removed today, from the video games folder, under the "examples are not general" clause:

I don't see how this is general. This is a detailed and objective statement that makes a good example of the trope within a very specialized subset of games.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Nov 5th 2015 at 2:11:53 AM •••

It is general because it refers to a whole genre instead of specific works. Besides, it's unlikely that this generalization is true.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Headrock Since: Apr, 2009
Nov 5th 2015 at 5:31:46 AM •••

So what's the alternative, describing the same thing for each of them? I've played all of the big-name real-time strategy games (ok, most, 100% is probably impossible), and that description fits dozens of them perfectly, without having to change a word. Is it automatically disqualified because it speaks of a genre? That doesn't sound right to me.

(I didn't write this example, btw, I just don't agree with the way the guideline itself is being applied here).

karrasa Since: Apr, 2014
Apr 21st 2014 at 5:50:24 AM •••

Bill Adama going down to Kobol does not strike me as a good example of this. He goes to personally reconnect with Lee, Roslin and Starbuck (at the very least). Whatever you can say about the writers sending those other main characters down there (most of them were pretty justifiable, I think), Adama pretty much had to go in person. They did also acknowledge his surgery, even if they might have downplayed it a touch.

Headrock Since: Apr, 2009
Mar 15th 2014 at 2:31:14 AM •••

With the recent link to It's Up to You, it seems that our page quote may be a little unsuitable. I didn't like it from the start, but I think this is a good opportunity to replace it with something else that isn't a strict videogame example.

I was thinking of quoting SF Debris, since he's got a dozen lines about this trope, but I'd like to hear more suggestions.

NimmerStill Since: Mar, 2012
May 10th 2012 at 4:56:32 PM •••

This trope is WAY more common than the page makes it look.

Kilyle Field Primus Since: Jan, 2001
Field Primus
Dec 15th 2011 at 9:20:49 AM •••

I forget which movie we were watching at the time (possibly Law Abiding Citizen?), but this DA was told by his superior that he had better solve this one murder case, or his job was at stake.

My friend instantly coined the phrase, "Super DA Man! This is totally his job."

Only the curious have, if they live, a tale worth telling at all.
DonaldthePotholer Since: Dec, 2009
Oct 1st 2011 at 4:15:31 PM •••

Removing this:

  • The "Hey, Mon!" sketch from In Living Color lampshades this to some degree. ...
    • Except that it's making fun of the stereotype in the black community that West Indians are extremely hard working yet cheerful.

Also, sent the SF Debris citiations to the Analysis Department, preventing the page from being a Self-Demonstrating Article.

EDIT: And... examples sorted.

Edited by DonaldthePotholer
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