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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 20th 2021 at 11:06:08 AM •••

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Unclear Description, started by Lophotrochozoa on Jul 23rd 2012 at 11:34:57 PM

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 20th 2021 at 10:30:10 AM •••

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Needs Help, started by SatoshiBakura on Nov 27th 2014 at 12:03:24 AM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 20th 2021 at 10:16:36 AM •••

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Needs Help, started by SatoshiBakura on Jul 27th 2015 at 11:08:39 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 20th 2021 at 8:19:09 AM •••

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Needs Help, started by SatoshiBakura on Jan 1st 2016 at 11:02:28 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
TheGuyWhoKnowsStuff The Crown Blintz of Crime Since: May, 2018
The Crown Blintz of Crime
Oct 5th 2020 at 4:10:12 AM •••

Could the whole of the faction of the Marines in One Piece count as The Heavy? Specifically in contrast to the Celestial Dragons, who are arguably responsible for the Crapsack World, but aren't really relevant to the main plot of Luffy's quest.

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richieduck3 The Dimension Spawn Since: Sep, 2019
The Dimension Spawn
Nov 5th 2019 at 5:10:50 AM •••

Quick question: Would Dr. Kemp/Kenji Tsukigata from Liveman count? He led the betrayal to join Volt and, aside from Gash, lasted the longest out of all the generals.

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ultibman5000 Since: Jul, 2013
Mar 13th 2018 at 1:58:24 PM •••

Is The Heavy the antagonist with the most screen time, the most interaction with the protagonists, or the most impact on the plot? Or is it some mixture of all three?

Because there are a lot of examples that fit into one or two of the above categories, but not the others.

Scaramouche, for example, has far less screen time than Aku, even if you exclude Seasons 1-4. Yet he's listed as The Heavy because he's Aku's favorite and because of some act of terrible violence he committed?

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GoblinCipher Since: Nov, 2015
Jul 12th 2018 at 7:28:30 AM •••

Many of the examples on this page are that work's Big Bad. Is the Heavy distinguished by being a villain with more screen time with the Big Bad? How much overlap does this trope have with The Antagonist and The Dragon?

Most significantly, should this trope simply be folded into Antagonist? The nature of the trope is very vague, and while the trivia in the description is interesting it could easily be added to another trope's description and The Heavy turned into a redirect.

Candhfan621 God of the Flying Purple People Eaters!!! Since: Oct, 2014
God of the Flying Purple People Eaters!!!
Apr 12th 2016 at 4:09:19 PM •••

Why isn't the Heavy from TF 2 the page picture? HIS CLASS NAME IS HEAVY.

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Candhfan621 Since: Oct, 2014
Apr 12th 2016 at 4:10:16 PM •••

Is there any way to delete a topic?

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MasterGhandalf Since: Jul, 2009
Sep 9th 2013 at 6:46:17 PM •••

I don't really think that the Light from Young Justice count as The Heavy. My understanding of this trope is that it requires a villain who is front and center in the action (which is why The Heavy of Star Wars is Vader, not Palpatine), but the Light always hide in the shadows, in many cases only put in brief appearances in a given episode to confirm that yes, they were behind this, and are fairly rarely confronted directly by the heroes. The Light are very clearly the Big Bad (or a Big Bad, in the second season) but honestly, I don't think YJ really has a Heavy (though Black Beetle in Season Two might come pretty close).

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Sep 10th 2013 at 5:37:52 AM •••

Yeah, The Light definitely wouldn't count. I think Sportsmaster would actually come the closest, honestly, but I don't even think he would.

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MasterGhandalf Since: Jul, 2009
Sep 10th 2013 at 7:09:42 PM •••

I think I'm going to go ahead and pull them.

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bud0011 Since: Jan, 2001
Nov 14th 2012 at 1:23:10 PM •••

For the Legend of Korra entry, Amon was never replaced as the big bad.

SalvyMic Taking a level in badass Since: Dec, 2009
Taking a level in badass
Jul 21st 2011 at 1:57:10 AM •••

I think this is a trope that's going to get filled up pretty quick, so it may be prudent to begin sorting stuff by medium.

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SalvyMic Since: Dec, 2009
Jul 21st 2011 at 2:25:38 AM •••

Eh, I ended up doing it myself. Hate to sound like I'm kissing my own ass, but the page does look a lot better now.

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