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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Jul 22nd 2022 at 6:00:59 AM •••

The page was previously flagged for Five P review with the rationale: and the disposition was: Keep; this isn't pornography.

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MithrandirOlorin Since: May, 2012
May 30th 2012 at 3:19:51 PM •••

In my experience the treatment of this Trope in fiction is the opposite of the real life Double Standard. TV shows always attempt opening minds about a Female Student and Male teacher relationship like on Pretty Little Liars constantly. But whenever a Female Teacher and Male student get together it seems to be for no other reason then to say "This is just as Bad" forgetting the TV refuses to call the other bad.

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BibsDibs Since: Mar, 2013
May 27th 2013 at 2:54:21 PM •••

It's because more writers don't think the Double Standard makes sense or shouldn't be there. So some try to bring in a female teacher/male student romance to say it's just as bad as it would be if the genders were reversed. Others don't see what the big deal is and say it's okay as long as the student's a certain age regardless of gender and use a male teacher/female student romance to prove their point. And then you have the people who try to turn it on its head. Though I do see your point.

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trims Since: Aug, 2012
Jul 25th 2013 at 6:11:56 PM •••

I also see that most modern media seems to downplay the "Hot for Teacher" aspect, while condemning the "Hot for Student" and "Mutual" versions.

At least for the underage student, modern media seems reasonably consistent with condemning "Hot for Student"/"Mutual", regardless of the genders of the older person. It gets a lots fuzzier when the student is "legal", and I've seen this all over the place in depictions.

However, we're still really not good about condemning the student for inappropriate behavior towards the teacher. It's almost always still played as either a good thing, or approved of by the student's peers, and said students almost *never* are depicted as having suffered any consequences for doing it.

ChandraSaki Since: Jul, 2018
Jul 6th 2018 at 6:42:09 PM •••

But do keep in mind though, different countries may have different perspectives, laws and regulations about these kinds of things. Many Americans, for example, seem to view student-teacher relationships with revulsion, even disgust. And in the USA, even 18-year-olds who have relationships with teachers are generally not allowed. But Europeans may be less offended. Or the Japanese for that matter, from what their manga says...and it's not impossible those countries may have different policies from the USA.

Although I admit, the PLL with Aria and Ezra does seem to be the most popular relationship on the show for some reason.

Feinoha Since: Apr, 2010
Drolyt Since: Jan, 2001
Oct 21st 2011 at 5:20:20 AM •••

A famous instance of this trope. She was a teacher who ended up marrying her student and having his kids, but only after serving 8 years in jail for molesting him. It was rather controversial, especially since some wonder how it could be abuse if he ends up marrying her even after all that time, not to mention the gender issues and the apparent double standards involved. Also for some reason the media coverage tended to focus on how attractive she was. I've never seen her so I'm not too clear on that, but most believe it should be irrelevant.

spiritsunami Since: Jan, 2001
Oct 23rd 2016 at 5:56:05 PM •••

Though it brings up an interesting point. There are plenty of Renamed Tropes out there, but this has got to be one of the only No Real Life Examples, Please! tropes where the former Trope Namer was a Real Life example. I myself said this was a good rename even though I'm generally against them, but the switch to No Real Life Examples, Please! has me shaking my head at how even when this wiki greys something right, they find a way to screw things up again.

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70.112.120.225 Since: Dec, 1969
Jul 14th 2010 at 6:33:35 PM •••

what is the pic for Teacher Student Romance from

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spiritsunami The Sage of Boredom Since: Jan, 2001
The Sage of Boredom
Aug 3rd 2010 at 11:34:16 AM •••

Ah, good, another rename that actually made sense.

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BNJC1 Since: Jun, 2009
Nov 22nd 2010 at 1:44:54 PM •••

Actually, I think this one was really, really stupid and unnecessary. But eh, to each their own.

TheAntiTed Since: Apr, 2009
Dec 19th 2010 at 11:18:39 AM •••

I concur with BNJC 1. Hot For Teacher was both funny, a reference to well-known pop culture, and descriptive. The new one is descriptive, yes, but boring. Why was it changed?

shimaspawn MOD Since: May, 2010
Dec 19th 2010 at 7:18:09 PM •••

If you read the page, Hot for Teacher is one of the things the trope is soft split into. There's also Hot for Student and mutual attraction. The title hot for teacher only covered part of the trope.

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TY4 Since: Dec, 1969
Feb 18th 2011 at 2:05:10 PM •••

I think it should be called "Sex Ed"

Emmarosekinkade Since: Dec, 1969
Oct 14th 2011 at 10:33:37 PM •••

Anyone realize that Buffy the Vampire Slayer also subverts this trope with Wesley and Cordelia during the prom episode in Season 3?

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