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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 22nd 2021 at 9:44:28 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: What's the point?, started by KaiserMazoku on Sep 5th 2011 at 8:15:40 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
undeadfun Since: Dec, 2016
Aug 22nd 2017 at 3:43:09 PM •••

The Web Original section on Cracked.com is just straight-up bashing the people mentioned. It's personal attacks, not an entry.

billtkd Since: Mar, 2015
Dec 6th 2016 at 10:56:26 AM •••

There is a fundamental flaw with this trope. The page says "Tautology is a term meaning that something is true in every possible interpretation". That is is not what tautology means. It means using multiple, usually superfluous, words that have the same or similar meanings, like 'big giant'.

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billtkd Since: Mar, 2015
Dec 12th 2016 at 12:51:01 AM •••

Apologies. Ignore. I didn't realise that this usage is another meaning for tautology, in logic. I only knew about the grammatical usage.

SvartiKotturinn Since: Sep, 2013
Jul 14th 2014 at 2:23:27 AM •••

There’s a huge problem with this article, and that is most of these are indistinguishable from a combination of Well-Intentioned Extremist and The End Justifies the Means. Light Yagami in the Death Note entry kills innocent people strictly to save his own neck, not to silence criticism the way Misa and Mikami do, and the woman from the Not Always Right entry gave a reason she thinks she’s ‘righteous’ (she does a lot of proselytising), which gives her enough ‘moral credit’, so to speak, to get a pass on being late, especially since it was the reason she was late in the first place. Even the page quote feels more like a case of Moral Myopia or something like that than ‘I’m good, so what I do is good’.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Jul 14th 2014 at 2:29:05 AM •••

The tropes are different, though.

A Tautological Templar believes they are good and that anything they do is also good. The End Justifies the Means and Well-Intentioned Extremist have their "is it good?" standards set outside, so to speak.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SvartiKotturinn Since: Sep, 2013
Dec 22nd 2014 at 1:32:15 PM •••

I get that, but it doesn’t seem like the examples on this page agree.

ACondomFullOfCrisco Since: Feb, 2014
Feb 24th 2014 at 12:14:04 PM •••

What is the difference between Knight Templar and Tautological Templar? I'm not seeing much difference between them.

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feral Since: Apr, 2009
Feb 24th 2014 at 6:22:38 PM •••

The Knight Templar is the character who goes to extremes Jumping Off the Slippery Slope to eliminate perceived "evils."

A Tautological Templar is the rationalization (and Logical Fallacy) that is sometimes (but not always) behind such a character: basically "I'm a good guy because I say I'm a good guy. How dare you question me!"

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