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Mar 20th 2021 at 11:36:21 AM •••

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Unclear Description, started by DesertDragon on Sep 18th 2012 at 12:07:07 PM

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oolong Since: Nov, 2011
May 7th 2012 at 7:28:04 PM •••

I disagree for the most part that the issues in The Legend of Korra are Tall Poppy Syndrome. As somebody on the Headscratchers page mentioned, it's more out of fear than jealousy. Plus, it seems that most of the wealthy are non-benders.

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MsBeauty Since: Nov, 2011
May 26th 2012 at 12:37:00 PM •••

You have a point, but I don't think we should rule out TPS completely. Everyone has thier own motivation for joining the equalist and for one person, it might be that. But yeah, TPS isn't one of the main issues (as far as we know).

TrainingChampion Since: Apr, 2014
Jul 13th 2014 at 7:55:39 PM •••

The examples used are purely speculation. The examples used go on to basically say "wait a sec I'm not sure it's tall poppy syndrome". It's way close to Fantastic Racism.

While there may be Tall Poppy Syndrome involved, there are no in-universe sources to qualify this. Is any fanon supports this it should be cataloged under "Fan Works". It doesn't belong in the general article.

axelseru Since: Feb, 2010
Jul 11th 2010 at 7:32:49 PM •••

It's interesting to note that US style egalitarianism IS socialism right there! The crab/poppy has nothing to do with socialism and everything to do with petty thinking.

Course it's not a good idea to tell an American that. Lol!

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CelticKawaii Since: Dec, 2013
Jun 11th 2014 at 6:14:54 PM •••

You more or less did anyway, and I am merely confused.

spike12 Since: Nov, 2009
Apr 15th 2013 at 6:58:24 PM •••

You know, I'm surprised no one has added the ultimate example of Tall Poppy Syndrome out there; ZOMBIES. I mean they envy the living and want to bring them down to their level.

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CelticKawaii Since: Dec, 2013
Jun 11th 2014 at 6:13:40 PM •••

They don't envy; they don't even have BRAINS! Or do they?

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GammaEsNihil Since: Feb, 2013
Feb 5th 2012 at 8:29:21 PM •••

Am I the only one thinking that the "real life" examples for Australia and Spain could be applied to some extent to about 99% of the world? There will almost always be someone at some point criticizing or makig fun of succesful people from their community for being sell-outs, nouveaux-riches, rootless, etc. And there will always be other people from the same community being proud of them. It's not like the majority of people really cares anyway. The tropers writing them just seem sour about their own community... Also, the Jante Law was already covered in Litterature, so I'm not sure if it should be there twice.

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illegalcheese Since: Apr, 2010
Apr 24th 2012 at 10:32:59 PM •••

Australia, Spain, and the Scandinavian and South American regions are I think distinctly notable for it, which is probably just a result of culture lines. It is prevalent just about everywhere, but there are regions where the attitude just happens to be promoted more. They just happen to be very large regions.

Again, my interpretation of those entries is that the attitude is borderline endemic in those regions. In the USA, by contrast, you'll find it among minorities, in ghettoes, or in communities that aren't thriving, but it's not something anyone would call distinctly American.

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Herunaut Since: Feb, 2012
Feb 13th 2012 at 5:21:43 AM •••

I would claim that tall poppy syndrome, or specifically the Scandinavian "Jantelov" (at least in contemporary society), is in fact primarily a convenient way to derail debates and avoid legitimate criticism by playing the victim card. This is particularly effective in Scandinavia as Scandinavians seem inclined to almost instinctive sympathy for supposed victims (an unfortunate side effect of Scandinavian egalitarianism). Successful (in terms of sales), but hopelessly untalented, actors and musicians are particularly prone to shouting "jantelov" (often quite literally) in order to silence critics, as are millionaires/billionaires accused of financial wrongdoing.

Kalaong Since: Jan, 2001
Aug 25th 2011 at 7:32:52 PM •••

Need to find a way to work Useful Notes/Objectivism, as the philosophy is a direct attack on this one.

Agemegos Since: May, 2009
Sep 4th 2010 at 9:14:39 PM •••

Is upper-class hostility to arrivistes really considered to be a case of the tall poppy syndrome? I would have thought that aristocratic officers' resentment of Sharpe in the Sharpe novel series to be ordinary snobbishness. It wouldn't be the tall poppy syndrome unless he were resented and undermined by the masses that he arose from.

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tussl12 Since: Nov, 2009
Jan 7th 2011 at 11:22:42 PM •••

I think it would be TPS from the POV of the rankers, but you are right re aristocrats, for them it would just be arrogance.

RobinZimm Since: Jan, 2001
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