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69.106.207.70 Since: Dec, 1969
Apr 13th 2010 at 11:58:56 AM •••

Can a book (literature) have 'arcs'? Or are they considered as 'different' things? And if they do have arcs/some other similar thing; are they viewed with dismay, or is it pretty much okay to the readers?

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70.105.193.7 Since: Dec, 1969
Aug 8th 2010 at 4:28:04 PM •••

i would say yes, because an arc is like an ongoing plotline. So there can be a few arcs in one book.

GandalfStormcrow Since: Jul, 2013
Jul 30th 2013 at 6:16:09 AM •••

The way I see it is that one book in a series (of books) is like an "episode" of the story. In that light, an arc would be a story that spans two or more books in a series, but not all the books. It's certainly possible, but then again: a lot of book series only focus on a single story, possibly from the viewpoint of multiple characters (see "A Song of Ice and Fire" by G.R.R.Martin) or are set up as "one book per story, multiples of them set in the same universe".(see the "Jack Reacher" books by Jim Grant (better known under his pen name, Lee Child)

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tweekatten Since: Oct, 2019
Dec 29th 2020 at 2:24:27 AM •••

I am not here to defend traditional literary criticism, but I would point out that a novel is by its nature a self-contained account of a lasting and essential development, usually of character as it pertains to a human being's relationship to other human beings or the world at large.

A novel can indeed have multiple plot lines, but there should be a central and essential development at its core. A Suitable Boy is a novel with very many characters, all of whom develop novelistically in their own right - but the Indian nation is the essential, central character in the book and the question at its core is how the Indian people can or should redefine themselves after the English have left. Come to think of it, much the same can be said of Midnight's Children.

In SF, the thing being developed is quite often an idea (Huxley, Lem, Keyes...), where the human characters little more than cyphers. For this reason, literary types tend to disparage even very good SF. Most SF is much worse, of course, offering neither development of human character nor development of profound ideas.

Insofar as a Jack Reacher has literary merit, the instalments would best be regarded as alternate versions of the same book. (I think it was García Márquez who observed that any given writer only has one novel in him/her anyway and produces alternate versions of that book; but he was talking philosophically, not referring to a series set in a common fictional universe.)

For TV shows and epic fantasy cycles, the main characters are often set to be the same people at the end of an episode that they were at the beginning and this requirement is incompatible with the defining hallmark of a novel (but not the short story or novella). The writers would have to carefully plan an arc over all its seasons or volumes for the story to be "novelistic".

Lost was initially said to have this as its unique selling point, but the creators' assurances that they "had it all planned out" were taken too seriously by the fans, forcing the makers to up the ante all the way to inevitable disappointment.

IRL, planning all seasons or volumes in advance is impossible. Shows get cancelled. Books that sell will get sequels until the break-even point is reached. Serious literary aspirations are hardly compatible with the realities of pop culture.

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tweekatten Since: Oct, 2019
Dec 29th 2020 at 2:07:45 AM •••

The main page notes correctly that Soaps were and remain predominantly arc-based. The converse is that non-soaps tend to become more like soaps the less they are driven by stand-alone episodes and the more they rely on season or multi-season arcs.

The reason, I think, is that as soon as you resolve a tension, you have to mess things up for the characters again in order for there to be a story. For menace-driven arcs, this simply means that as one Big Bad sinks into inferno, another one gets off the bus. For romance-driven arcs, in combination with a fixed core cast, this means you get endless permutations of everyone coupling unsuccessfully with everyone else.

The permutation curse is what traditional soaps are infamous for.

We need a term for this "turning into soap" - I propose saponification.

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