Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Break off MeatShield.
, started by Deboss on Nov 19th 2010 at 6:46:18 PM
Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Ambiguous Name, started by VioletOrange on Aug 16th 2013 at 8:38:59 PM
The following was added to the Plants Vs Zombies 2 Infini-Nut entry:
"There's also Endurian, who costs more than a basic Wall-nut, but can also deal damage to zombies while they are eating him. Red Stinger also becomes a purely defensive plant when on the far right side of the lawn, though not a very good one, since he has less than half the health of a Wall-nut and costs three times as much."
This is bad Example Indentation. If these are valid examples, they need their own entries in their own bullet points.
As written, however, they're Not An Example. Stone Wall is "strong defense, weak offense." The Endurian sentence doesn't establish either. The Red Stinger says it's a "purely defensive" plant but goes on to make it sound like it is actually weak defensively (half the health of a Wall-nut) and doesn't talk about offense either way.
Pretty sure Damage Sponge won a rename trope crowner in the repair shop. So why is this still called Stone Wall and why is all block no bite a redirect? Pretty sure that one was voted down.
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IIRC that was to be one small part of a giant overhaul of this and several other related tropes, and the whole thing eventually fell apart. I'm not sure if that rename crowner would still be considered valid or if you'd need to go through the process again if you wanted it renamed.
I oppose Damage Sponge, for the record. It's no better a description of the trope than Stone Wall is, albeit for a different reason.
As for All Block No Bite, it's a dumb-sounding name, but hey, Redirects Are Free.
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Let's clarify this once and for all: Is speed really factored into this trope at all?
From what I know about Stone Wall, it is only about High Defence and low Offence. In my opinion, it does not matter if the speed is low or average.
This is especially true for Berzerking and Shielding styles, where the Stone Wall needs an extent to speed to reach the incoming attacks.
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Speed isn't a factor. Part of the problem with Titanium Peashooter was that it implicitly turned speed into a factor on this trope.
Hence why there are Stone Walls that don't get by on defense, but on Evasion (Super Robot Taisen has Stone Walls that are real robots that just dodge every attack thrown at them).
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What about this:
Bob can outrun a cheetah, and can withstand anything that Planet Earth can, but can't even bend rubber. In other words, great speed and solid defenses, but bad attack.
There are examples out there! Examples from Pokemon include Tentacruel, Jumpluff, Pachirisu, and Serperior.
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Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Gonna try and split again.
, started by Deboss on Feb 15th 2011 at 4:25:59 AM
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