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nekouken Since: Nov, 2009
May 16th 2011 at 4:12:21 PM •••

  • Mr. Miyagi's "training" in The Karate Kid.
    • Well, if Mr. Miyagi had called the police or Daniel's father in about the damaged hedges, forced Daniel to do physical labor for a week as recompense, and then revealed the whole thing had been training in blocking technique, I'd agree wholeheartedly. As it is, Miyagi's actions are inscrutable, but neither threatening nor quite villanous... and they come in response to Daniel actually asking him for training, so there isn't too high a stealth coefficient here. Borderline, though.
    • I disagree; Daniel asked to be trained, and Miyagi set him to work painting fences and waxing floors until he couldn't feel his arms. Daniel may have rationalized it to himself that he was earning his training by doing this work, but at no time was he ever under the impression he was training; when he finally confronted Miyagi, his assumption was that this obnoxious old man was using him to get free labor on the promise of training that wasn't coming. Miyagi chuckling as he left Daniel to his tasks only fed that interpretation both for Daniel and the audience.

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MasterFuzzy Since: Dec, 2016
Jan 4th 2018 at 6:16:02 AM •••

I agree with the latter opinion; Miyagi seems to be a mixture of Stealth and Trickster Mentors, since he doesn't explain what he's doing, and does get free labour out of it (as well as the training).

JoshCarter85 Since: Mar, 2017
Feb 25th 2018 at 6:24:38 AM •••

Well, i disagree with your disagreement. Yeah, he may have looked like a dick, but he wasn't antagonising againt Daniel.

Instead of:

  • You suck, if you would have done this you could have beaten me.
  • Oh, i have learned something from it.

It was more like:

  • Do this
  • I did it and it sucked!
  • But you have learned something.
  • Oh, i did actually.

Plus, Miyagi trained him all the time, Daniel doubted, but it was always a training.

It wasn't a revelation that Miyagi indeed trained him, the revelation was that the Training did work.

Edited by JoshCarter85
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