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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 22nd 2021 at 10:32:00 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Limit to fictional examples only., started by JackMackerel on Jan 12th 2011 at 10:56:28 AM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
DDRLatch Since: Mar, 2013
ipatrol Since: Oct, 2011
Mar 30th 2019 at 9:47:02 AM •••

I can't even find any mention of this concept outside of this article, even though it seems like it's a really important thing to tackle.

josephripken Joeseph Ripken Since: Jul, 2010
Joeseph Ripken
Mar 27th 2013 at 8:02:44 PM •••

"Benson & Hedges pulled its funding for the Symphony of Fire and the Toronto International Film Festival in 2000 when new advertising regulations came into effect. The subtext was that they were only funding them to get their logo displayed, not to support culture."

—- Ok, seriously? We're going to demonise a company for not wanting to give away money now? Say what you want about tobacco companies, but it would be stupid of any company to just give away money and not advertise it. Every company that gives away money to charities advertises it.

The entire damn point of sponsorship is to put your logo on the event. Jeese people.

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72.82.6.154 Since: Dec, 1969
Apr 4th 2011 at 1:56:06 PM •••

"A large ad seen on the street featured the slogan "Smoking will kill you slowly". Under it, someone helpfully tagged the subtext ("We're not in a hurry"). "

Do you idiots really believe that an ad that flat out says "SMOKING WILL KILL YOU" is a veiled smoking ad just because "SLOWLY" is affixed to the end? I know you get an erection when you think you've spotted some lie and get to feel like you're smarter than everyone else, but really, think these things through a little.

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josephripken Since: Jul, 2010
Jul 6th 2011 at 6:09:17 PM •••

You speak the truth. Thumbs up to you, my good poster.

The host of a little watched web show that explores bad tv episodes.
hayleychaotix Since: Mar, 2011
Aug 1st 2011 at 4:46:27 PM •••

Edit: Yeah, thinking it through a bit more, it wouldn't count as an example.

Edited by hayleychaotix
josephripken Since: Jul, 2010
Sep 27th 2011 at 3:35:13 PM •••

It says " smoking will kill you adding "slowly " to the end of that doesn;t change the sentiment.

You can't sell a product by saying it will kill you, so saying that a billboard that says smoking will kill you is a commercial for smoking is patently ridiculous.

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adamas17 Since: Mar, 2012
Mar 6th 2012 at 10:03:24 AM •••

I wanted to point out an inaccuracy in this article: cigarette advertisements on television are not banned in the US, they were voluntarily withdrawn due to legislation requiring anti-smoking PS As to be run with equal time opposite any TV ad. The PS As were so effective that they stopped trying to compete with them. In essence this subverts the trope a bit. as for the topic discussed above: If you are a smoker, seeing a "stop smoking" ad can remind you about cigarettes and make you want to smoke... this is especially a problem for those attempting to quit, who then see images of cigarettes in the form of stop smoking ads. As for the "smoking will kill you", in Australia i've heard that people ask for their favorite brands by the gruesome image on the cover "gimme 2 black lungs, and a throat cancer please" our friend @72.82.6.154, needs to remember that no-one is immune from failing to think things through, or the occasional 'dilbert principle' stupidity.

phasmid Since: Sep, 2010
Apr 24th 2012 at 6:23:42 PM •••

It seems there is a big problem with a lot of the "Real Examples" being that they aren't stealth smoking ads at all, but rather various forms of unintentional Broken Aesop and Values Dissonance. I think we should filter out all the examples not published by cigarette companies.

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