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JusticeReaper Since: Oct, 2010
Jul 10th 2016 at 2:58:55 PM •••

Just a question: does the person who is the Spanner in the Works HAVE to be someone who is classified as an idiot, according to the trope's description on the main page? I have seen examples of SMART people being listed as this in different media, such as Fujitora from One Piece.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Jul 11th 2016 at 8:50:56 AM •••

This trope is about someone's blundering accidentally ruining carefully laid out plans. A smart character could qualify if they were, say, an unpredictable but intelligent Cloud Cuckoo Lander.

But if the character's intelligent and his own plans can ruin someone else's it would be Didn't See That Coming.

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NNinja Since: Sep, 2015
Nov 6th 2016 at 1:29:31 PM •••

As far as i can tell inteligence of a character is irrelevant, the bare bones of this trope is that someone messes someone else's plan by accident, without intending to. Idiots are simply more prone to this.

MrInitialMan Since: Jan, 2001
Aug 3rd 2020 at 2:43:56 PM •••

I think that this description could use some work, particularly when someone (such as Florence in Freefall and Quentyn in Tales Of The Questor are spanners in their respective works quite deliberately (even though Quentyn has no idea how big the scope of the works are).

DaibhidC Since: Jan, 2001
Nov 18th 2023 at 8:17:24 AM •••

I think that without the "unwitting" bit (and I'd accept "I know i'm standing against the bad guy, but I have no idea how important that is" as "unwitting"), that leaves us with "The villain has a plan, and the hero stops it" which seems ... a bit broad?

Nymphonomicon Meatbag Since: Jan, 2001
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Dec 22nd 2011 at 7:45:08 PM •••

This trope seems to apply to someone ruining a villain's plan- what would we call it when a dopey character or Cloudcoocoolander ruins the hero's plan?

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IndirectActiveTransport Since: Nov, 2010
Apr 23rd 2014 at 4:31:37 AM •••

Swiss Messenger

That's why he wants you to have the money. Not so you can buy 14 Cadillacs but so you can help build up the wastes
72.215.154.27 Since: Dec, 1969
Jan 19th 2011 at 10:40:25 AM •••

Star Wars Expanded Universe. Thrawn not knowing that Leia was Darth Vader's daughter would qualify as this trope.

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NNinja Since: Sep, 2015
Apr 18th 2016 at 11:17:40 PM •••

Then add it. If someone didn't in a meantime.

Alcator Since: Dec, 2012
Nov 8th 2015 at 1:30:46 AM •••

As a non-native speaker, I was having trouble understanding the trope's name: the "-er" suffix in the word spanner indicated to me a PERSON that is doing spanning, and "in the works" sounded like "working"

While in fact, spanner is a tool, and "works" in this instance means an engine, so basically, this is "throwing a wrench in a clockwork engine".

What would be the best way to include this explanation in the trope's description?

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