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dgenega5764 Since: Mar, 2015
Oct 20th 2020 at 8:46:48 AM •••

What is the threat level of Indiana Jones villains such as Rene Belloq, Mola Ram, Walter Donovan, and Irina Spalko?

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Observerfromafar Since: Apr, 2023
Sep 22nd 2023 at 9:10:57 PM •••

I do not know a lot about the Indiana Jones franchise so looking up these villains that you've listed and what their goals are, indicates they are planetary level threats. Both Rene Belloq and Walter Donovan are assisting the Nazi Party who are, of course, trying to take over the world. Irina Spalko, a Soviet operative, assists Stalin in finding the Crystal Skull to gain an advantage in the Cold War. Mola Ram plots to gain ultimate power, eradicate the British, the Hebrews, the Muslims and the Christians; and rule the world.

VulgarBee I AM KING OF THE BEACH!! Since: Jun, 2016
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Jan 13th 2019 at 10:00:54 PM •••

Can we give the examples bullets?

johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
Feb 21st 2018 at 5:54:45 AM •••

Should there be a split between Local Area Threat and, say, "Personal Threat"? There's a bit of a difference between a story about trying to foil a serial killer who might terrorise a neighbourhood, and a story about trying to prevent someone from killing one specific person.

Iago in Othello causes a few collateral deaths, but his driving goal is merely to destroy Othello.

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sarysa Purrloin Jani by @/{{shrubBird}} Since: Jun, 2013
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Apr 10th 2016 at 11:44:02 PM •••

The scale seems to lose its shape around the "multiverse" phase. A good example of why is how the Kromaggs from Sliders are ranked above universal threats. Sliders is one of those examples of a universe where dimensional travel exists without space travel, making it very likely that near-top tier threats actually belong on par with solar system or galaxy. Not to mention, it's very likely that "mere" planet or country threats could just happen to have access to multiverse travel in certain works. (Link, Zelda, and Ganon are decent examples of this, since there have been at least 3 parallel worlds explored across 3 different games)

Current WHABP alts: Jani (Sarah) the Purrloin, Hudson the Togetic. Tilly/Lilly (Digletts) are being Put on a Bus.
mewarmo990 Since: Apr, 2011
Oct 9th 2013 at 2:56:31 AM •••

This entry really needs to be cleaned up. There is an arbitrary wall of text under nearly every category. Better to take a page from Super Weight and define each category and add a few example tropes, and then spin off individual works' entries into their own lists on another page.

morenohijazo Forofgold power! Since: Nov, 2009
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Oct 29th 2010 at 12:31:21 PM •••

Mmmm, I'm not very syre about this trope. The villains must be classified according to the threat they can potentially pose, or according to the threat they actually pose in the story, no matter if they could actually be more dangerous than they ever show? I mean... For example, a demon able to destroy the world at any moment, but that for some reason has a personal grudge against the protagonist and through the whole story just atatcks him, not actually threating the whole world, should be Personal Threat or Global Threat. OK, it's a very silly example, but you'll understand me this way.

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ading Since: Jan, 2011
Oct 7th 2011 at 3:45:57 AM •••

I think it's the villain's evil plans that are being quantified, not the actual villain, so your example would be Personal Threat.

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