Can someone more in tune with the Korra fandom give some input on how true the statement:"This has caused both shippers and non-shippers alike to regard all of the Korra/Asami shippers as "desperate", "obsessive" and "pushy", if not as downright "Het Is Ew supporters" who project their own issues about men on their Mako hate/Korrasami rabid-shipping." is?
I'll admit my bias as a Korrasami shipper but I've not invested much time in the fandom for the show, so I don't know how the ship is/was viewed. Korra's entry for Fanpreferred-couple does state that it became the most popular ship over time, so did the fandom's view on korrasami shippers change as well?
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That reads like a generalization. And the Example Indentation is a plain mess.
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I don't know or really care whether any of the described/desired Ships on the page did or do exist (OK, MAYBE Xena/Gabby or Alex/Olivia ;)), but, MAN, that was a LOT to read. There are some scary, crazy, obsessive people out there. I'm glad I write Professional Wrestling Fan Fiction, which works on a quite different principle, that being, explaining why characters HATE each other, with, at least in my version, ZERO romantic content.
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I hope that no one minds, but since the section for Hetalia was getting insanely long (Loads and Loads of Characters + Anthropomorphic Nations [meaning you can use history or international relations to justify ANY ship] + lots of Ship Tease - any Official Couples = a TON of ships and resulting Ship to Ship Combat) I moved the specific examples to their own page and changed the entry to something generic.
Just did a heavy edit of the Neon Genesis Evangelion section, which mostly involved deleting stuff. There was too much attacking of the Shinji/Asuka ship with no counterbalance, so I just got rid of all the attacks on any specfic ship.
Editing the Doctor Who and Legend of Korra sections, mainly due to increasing Makorra (Mako/Korra) and Borra (Bolin/Korra) strife.
Oh, and pretty intense shipping wars between Doctor/Rose and Doctor/River.
Hm, the page had grown to huge proportions. Shouldn't we divide it in separate pages for each section, since it's huge even with the folders on?
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T-T at the Hetalia Fandom. 2-3 years ago, I actually thought it was the sanest fandom that I know of.
Plants are aliens, and fungi are nanomachines.
Not sure where to put this... but is there any way whatsoever to reduce the amount of people using this very wiki to do this? Speaking as a non-shipper, I still find it extremely annoying when I'm reading through entries on, say, the Official Couple page, and someone's put an example on which just isn't true. Or people using the Ship Tease page to go on about how much teasing their preferred couple get... and completely ignoring a sometimes equal amount of teasing. I don't see how we can stop people doing this... but it is still extremely annoying and I really would like to hear if there is anything to be done about it.
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Edit as you see them. You could do a Trope Repair Shop, but your goal is a bit abstract for that.
Yeah, I didn't really think there would be a solution, I only posted as kind of a vague hope... I'll just keep my eyes open.
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I hope my comment below isn't one of those that annoy you because, really, I was just asking for a bit of fairness. (and the reason I'm replying this topic is actually because I posted my topic here instead of right there / and I can't delete this replying box)
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No, not at all. I'm talking about when people act like an unofficial ship is official. I have no issue with people supporting an unofficial ship - even if it breaks up an official one - but they have to accept that it's unoffical.
"if not for the inclusion of the Harmonians, a particularly insane fringe group of the Harry/Hermione ship who are the rough shipping equivalents of kamikazes. And by that we mean, they drop into innocent Harry/Ginny, Harry/Luna, and Ron/Hermione discussions, which promptly explode into a sea of Internet Backdraft. "
I believe this troper's comments were a bit unfair with the Harry/Hermione shippers. I might not know enough about the ship wars around the world but, at least in my country, the Ron/Hermione fans were known for not writing properly and posting infuriated commentaries on other ships' discussions. Furthermore, they keep on bashing on harmonians on tumblr with no reasons whatsoever. Although there is something about how poorly every single group treats their rivals, I believe it was unfairly harsh on harmonians. If there's something to say, make it go both ways, but the troper makes it sound like H Hr shippers are the ones to create every forum riot.
I'm not sure I could edit it properly, so if any good soul could correct the troper's understament, I'd appreciate it and so would my fellow H Hr shippers.
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Linked directly to the infamous Rowling-Emerson interview so that people can make their own opinions about it.
Out of curiosity, is there any actual proof of Rowling saying that Hermione was a "wandering" girl or that she could actually have ended up with Harry, or is it just a fabrication or line taken out of context? Because from the official stuff I've seen, she seemed to have decided on Ron/Hermione and Harry/Ginny as the eventual canon couples ever since the start of the series.
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There is an interview where she said there could have been Harry/Hermione. And from the official stuff I've seen, I wouldn't say it was her intention from the beginning, but by the time the third movie was released, an interview was given where she confirmed the canon pairings...Unfortunately.
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Her with the hat
Anyone else sitting around with Popcorn watching the EditWars here? Because it's honestly quite entertaining, even for someone who has never watched or read Bleach.
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Personally, I'm just irritated by the troll. *shrug* Probably shouldn't feed it, but yeah.
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Would TV Tropes admin be interested in identifying the troll for banning purposes?
Sorry, I'm the "troll" in question!
I'm okay if the the parts of the section is put up again which have links to fandom_wank reports or other evidence, like the yulieana and wiki wank.
But claims that Ulquiorra/Orihime is just a spiteship for Ichigo/Rukia shippers or a rumor that Japanese Ichigo/Rukia shippers bullied Japanese Ichigo/Orihime shippers out of fandom are Take Thats to Ichigo/Rukia and Ulquiorra/Orihime shippers in my eyes, that are not based on any sort of evidence and only villify them, possibly because the original poster of those entries has some sort of agenda, rather then presenting as neutrally as possible what happened. Does anyone here have a good grasp of Japanese and the Japanese Bleach fandom and actually links to substantiate these claims?
I freely admit that I did some trolling out of anger before, I was wrong and out of line there, but I think it's genuinely unfair to post stuff like that, when it seems to be rooted in some sort of fandom grudge rather than facts and evidence. The whole section is about what Ichi Rukis did, while claiming and insinuating that Ichigo/Orihime shippers never did anything wrong ever, despite that fact that no matter what ship war, there are no innocents on either side when it comes to the participants.
But I will accept any punishment for my behavior, including a bann. Dear mods, just please install a rule that says that only entries backed up by actual evidence will go up there. That page should not be a place where people can take "revenge" on a rival fandom faction.
Thank you.
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I saw the changes Nyscha made, and it's okay now. Can't argue with sources and proof.
My only quibble is that except for yulieana I have not seen any Ulquihimes aim for BNF status by bashing Ichihime, so I removed that. I'm not even sure that this was yulieana's intent when she did what she did.
Drakyndra: "Anyone else sitting around with Popcorn watching the Edit Wars here? Because it's honestly quite entertaining, even for someone who has never watched or read Bleach."
Yes, I was after I saw it on the Edit Reasons. I don't know the second thing about Bleach.
"I can claim anything I want, because I'm written by DAN BROWN!
I like the fact that, a few days about the edit war, something really big DOES happen to the shipping fandom of Bleach.
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Was it the one involving... Voice-actors? Would that also qualify as a good entry? Ichigo/Rukia vs Ichigo Voice-actors (Masakazu Morita and Johnny Young Bosch)
- it was highly entertaining.
Added some references to some vocal Anti-Ulquiorra/Orihime fans (mostly Anti-Orihime) who have entered the Ship-to-Ship Combat. Mostly because of the utter obnoxiousness of them along with misogyny aimed at Orihime. And it's getting quite a few favorites. I do feel bad for people who ship both Ichigo/Orihime and Ulquiorra/Orihime. It seems like this fandom is trying to force them to stick to one and only one Orihime ship.
I completely agree with Babylon_Harlot. I find it unfortunate that there are so many bias on this site about the Ichiruki vs Ichihime shipping wars. This site is supposed to be neutral, but in many articles the bias is obvious. I find this unfair. Sorry, but you have to be neutral there because many people will read it.
I don't think that's it—Rukia and Ichigo are much more popular than Orihime and Ichigo, hence, there's more crazy in their bigger, more popular ship. More people = more crazy. It'd be the evened out if Orihime and Ichigo were just as popular. Not to mention that Orihime is actually in love with Ichigo, so Rukia fans tends to be more defensive.
This is probably not the right place to put this, but... uhm... do people seriously not believe that Mal/Inara is not canon for firefly? >.> Like, I'm all for non-canon pairings, but... lol.
Suggestion: ship vs no-ship wars in the fullmetal alchemist manga fandom... Perhaps it can have its own trope?
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Oh my god, somebody please do something about that Wall of Text in the Pokemon example.
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Is it considered Ship-to-Ship Combat if the shippers dislike anyone who doesn't directly support their ship? By this, I mean that they are hostile even towards fans who do not ship and get into arguments with non-shippers. I've encountered some Pokémon fans who possess this "Anyone who's not for us is against us" attitude and it's getting annoying, especially because it's over non-canon material (Super Smash Bros., to be more precise)
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