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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 20th 2021 at 11:03:29 AM •••

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Unclear Description, started by Rethkir on Aug 12th 2013 at 7:38:16 AM

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xray10 Since: Apr, 2018
Sep 5th 2018 at 4:04:25 AM •••

Where are the others, like zagtoon? It's on their page ! Edit this, plz!

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legendaryweredragon Since: Apr, 2013
Sep 5th 2018 at 5:48:54 AM •••

Do it yourself if you notice something is missing that should be on here. That is what I do.

PrinceMarvel Since: Jul, 2012
Aug 20th 2017 at 9:04:03 PM •••

Not Sure if this counts, but there's a lot of Disney's classical movies that are also connected.

It started with "The Absent-Minded Professor" which introduced two elements which would appear in other Disney films. One was Medfield College which later appeared in "The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes." While the city of Medfield was later seen in "The Shaggy D.A.". The second was the character Alonzo Hawk who would later come back as an antagonist in Herbie Rides Again.

The rest are really supposition, and really depends on how one chooses to look at them.

The Absent-Minded Professor (1988). While supposedly a remake of the earlier film, but instead of starring a Professor Brainard, it starred another absent-minded professor in that of Henry Crawford who finds Professor Brainard's notes.

Gus. In Herbie Goes Bananas there is a scene were a party goer is seen wearing an Atoms jersey. The Atoms are the professional football team features in Gus.

The Ugly Dachshund. In the Shaggy D.A., the first time the main charatcer, Wilby, transforms back into the shaggy dog, he does so in a a yard that features a doghouse with the name Brutus on it. Brutus was the name of The Ugly Dachshund. It could be a connection, but it could also just merely be a shout out as Dean Jones played in both movies.

The Million Dollar Duck. Near the end of the movie there is a Volkswagen beetle with the license plate OFP-857. Again, it could be a connection, but it could also just merely be a shout out as Dean Jones played in both movies.

The Princess Diaries. This one is more or less a bit of a stretch. Both Herbie Rides Again and The Princess Diaries features their main protagonists living in a renovated firehouse in San Francisco. Are they the same?

Apparently at Disney World there is a ride called Journey Into Imagination. This attraction has several visual elements suggesting that it is connected to Medfield College, Some Crossover-ist don't really include media outside of Movies/TV Shows, I am one of the few that do, especially when it helps to connect other shows that I feel should be included. In this case it's Honey, I Shrunk the Kids as the ride also features an element for the show.

So as it stands Disney's Classic Cinematic Universe for sure includes the following movies

01 The Absent-Minded Professor

02 The Son of Flubber

03 The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes

04 Now You See Me, Now You Don't

05 The Strongest Man in the World

06 The Shaggy Dog

07 The Shaggy DA

08 Return of the Shaggy Dog

09 The Love Bug

10 Herbie Rides Again

11 Herbie Goes to Monte Carlo

12 Herbie Goes Bananas

13 Herbie, the Love Bug (TV Series)

14 The Love Bug (1997 TV Movie)

15 Herbie: Fully Loaded

With the possiblities of...

16 The Absent Minded-Professor (1988)

17 The Absent Minded-Professor: Trading Places

18 Gus

19 The Ugly Dachshund

20 The Million Dollar Duck

21 Honey, I Shrunk the Kids

22 Honey, I Shrunk the Kids: The TV Show

23 Honey, I Blew Up the Kid

24 Honey, We Shrunk Ourselves

25 The Princess Diaries

26 The Princess Diaries 2: A Royal Engagement

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Of Course, if you want to venture outside of the Disney shows, I could mention that KITT from Knight Rider did have a cameo appearance on Herbie: Fully Loaded. Which would then include several other shows from NBC and CBS.

Homemaderat Since: Apr, 2014
Jul 9th 2017 at 5:55:04 AM •••

I had mostly assumed "verse" discussion here was for things that went to establish a more serious continuity. As such a crossover itself isn't enough for a shared universe. But I see some tropers have done a full out page for Disney Channel's crossovers which just cross over whatever they want without much care how serious or not any of the individual shows take their continuity.

I ask this given I'm probably the biggest editor for the other company that made boat loads of crossovers regardless of how normal Continuity Snarl was, Hanna Barbera. So I get the feeling I'm going to need to be editing one for them soon.

Also while nowhere near as relevant as Disney Channel or Hanna Barbera, Full Moon Studios should kinda be in the discussion as well.

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Luppercus Since: Mar, 2015
Jul 11th 2017 at 12:41:32 AM •••

Yes, I myself place a topic for the clean-up of this page as it had too many examples that do not hold, and it was agreed that crossovers are not enough to be included (as the description actually says) so feel free to made a clean-up on that regard.

Treblain Not An Avatar Since: Nov, 2012
Not An Avatar
Mar 31st 2012 at 1:23:06 PM •••

Removed these examples because they came from the same writer:

  • Baccano and Durarara

  • Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs, both Tarantino films, share a link in that Vincent and Mr. Blonde are apparently brothers.
    • Originally the connection was intended to be much stronger. In early drafts of the script, the briefcase Vincent and Jules retrieve contain the diamonds stolen in Reservoir Dogs
    • Additionally, Lee Donowitz from True Romance is the son of Sgt. Donny Donowitz from Inglorious Basterds. Furthermore, Alabama from True Romance is the same Alabama that Mr. White mentions in Reservoir Dogs. Meaning all four movies are in the same universe.
    • It should also be noted that Big Kahuna Burger, a fictional fast food chain, is mentioned in both Pulp Fiction and From Dusk Til Dawn. Meanwhile, Apple Cigarettes, a fictional cigarette company, is seen in the Kill Bill movies as well as the other Tarentino flicks.
    • The character of Texas Ranger Earl Mc Graw connects the work of Tarantino to Robert Rodriguez, having appeared in From Dusk Till Dawn, Kill Bill, and Planet Terror.

  • PG Wodehouse achieves this in several ways, notably by having quite a few of his characters belong to the fictional "Drones Club".
  • Sharon Creech likes to add subtle details to her stories implying that her characters inhabit a shared universe. According to Word of God, some of them even know each other.

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ErichoTTA Since: Jan, 2013
Apr 21st 2014 at 2:38:27 PM •••

I don't quite understand exactly how you judge what a Shared Universe is. There was an episode of Family Guy where Bill Maher appeared. Obviously, Family Guy doesn't exist in the real world or else Bill Maher would stop making stupid jokes about talking snakes, seeing as he himself met a talking dog. If I went up to Bill and said that God was real because he met Brian, who had met Jesus, would he say that means Christianity is real? No, because real people can appear in fiction.

A similar criticism was made on the Wikipedia page of the Tommy Westphall theory, saying that if someone has a dream or fantasy about something else, it doesn't mean they are fictional per se. Someone else argued that Tommy Westphall simply watched the TV show Fraiser and dreamt them meeting the cast of St. Elsewhere. Doesn't mean they're in the same Universe.

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lu127 MOD PaperMaster Since: Sep, 2011
PaperMaster
Dec 9th 2012 at 4:32:49 AM •••

These were on Webcomics Multiverses. Leaving them here for posterity:

  • Air Force Blues presumably shares the same universe as Box D Blues and Air Force Toons, the former a webcomic, the latter a newspaper comic, both done by the same author. While Air Force Blues follows a group of Air Force pilots stationed in Alaska, Box D Blues and Air Force Toons both follow enlisted airmen stationed at different bases.
  • Bobbinsverse: Bobbins, Scary Go Round, Bad Machinery. Crossovers: Goats, Superosity.
  • Crew Dogs, as mentioned above, shared a universe with Air Force Blues.
  • Cyantia: Satin & Silk, Campus Safari, No Angel, Shivae!, Akaelae
  • Girlyverse: Cutewendy, itself a variation on earlier comic Wendy, segues into Girly, which also features Wendy characters. Doctor Voluptua apparently takes place in the same world.
  • Gonter Verse: Pretty much everything David Gonterman has ever made, depending on his mood.
  • Furryverse: A lot of furry webcomics share characters; the character Zig Zag, most famous in her role in Sabrina Online, gets around.
  • Jenniverse: Unicorn Jelly, Pastel Defender Heliotrope, To Save Her
  • Megageekverse: Megatokyo and Applegeeks. A noted crossover between two authors.
  • Furthermore, Applegeeks has done several crossovers with Ctrl Alt Del, but Ctrl Alt Del hasn't appeared in any Megatokyo comics.
  • ND Unlimited: Unlike Minerva, Namir Deiter, You Say It First. The non-anthropomorphic series by Terrence and Isabel Marks (Spare Parts, Undoubtedly Kawaii, The Shokora Diaries, Girichoko's Story) are fictional stories in that universe, and vice versa.
  • Narboniverse: Shaenon Garrity's Narbonic, Li'l Mell, Skin Horse.
  • Overside: All of Evan Dahm's comics are set here—Rice Boy, Order Of Tales, Vattu, and a number of short stories.
  • Roomieverse: College Roomies From Hell, UC Rats, the comic series version of Tangents (there were several 'Maritza's Minions' series, most of which lasted less than a year)
  • Shmorkyverse: Living In Greytown, Lizard (as much as the author would like us to forget these)
  • Somethingverse: Something*Positive / Something Positive 1938 / Midnight Macabre, Queen of Wands / Punch 'an Pie, Girls With Slingshots, Penny And Aggie, Cool Cat Studio, Sketchies, and possibly, by extension, Alternate Universe versions of the Fans!, Clan Of The Cats, Questionable Content, College Roomies From Hell, and the inhabitants of the Walky Verse and Melonpool. There's a possible case for including Alternate Universe Sluggy Freelance characters as well. One of the few shared worlds by two or more authors.
    • This may be growing, like a strange and beautiful Myth Arc, to incorporate several of these other Verses into one Gestalt Webcomic verse.
    • Argumentatively, could be a larger Topatocoverse (after the company), with the Wiguverse, xkcd, Dresden Codak, and even Little Gamers thrown in for good measure.
  • Walky Verse: Roomies, It's Walky!, Shortpacked!, Joyce and Walky!. Crossovers: Melonpool, Fans!.
    • Don't forget Questionable Content, when the Shortpacked! staff visited "Coffee of Doom", see (here) and (here), also done in a more subtle way (here)
      • Which is really weird, considering QC takes place in Massachusetts and Shortpacked is in San Francisco. That's a long way to go for coffee (and snark).
    • And Shortpacked! has joined the Something*Positive/Girls With Slingshots crossover, with Leslie adopting one of Sprinkles and Choo-Choo Bear's boneless mutant kittens.
    • And now it's crossing with Multiplex.
    • Dumbing Of Age is an Alternate Continuity of Walky Verse characters, without the alien stuff. Life Unembellished, as it were. (If it crosses over with just about any of the strips mentioned in the five preceding paragraphs, we could have some sort of multiverse-ending continuity snarl. ...Which might be fun to watch!...)
  • Wotchiverse: The Wotch, Cheer!, Triquetra Cats (arguably Zebra Girl, Accidental Centaurs and Abstract Gender as well, but most emphatically not El Goonish Shive, no matter how much the fans of both bitch about it.)
    • El Goonish Shive does take place in a multiverse however; its just that the entire multiverse exists within the canon of the one webcomic instead of being shared with other webcomics. Crossovers do take place in the guest comics though.
  • Wiguverse: When I Grow Up, Wigu, Wigu Adventures. Crossovers: Overcompensating.
  • Ultima-Java originally had a Multiverse in place, but has since January 2010, the concept has been removed, compressing all it's alternate coninuities into the UJ-verse. However Ultima-Java still hosts the pre-reboot continuty comic, that has been dubbed Universe 2 in reference to the DC Golden Age originally taking place on Earth 2. Ultima-Java also hosts other comics, that do not take place within the UJ-verse.
  • The webcomic hosting site Drunk Duck has a peculiar version of this, in that all webcomics hosted on the site apparently share a universe, as demonstrated by the myriad crossovers reminiscent of Marvel. And for some reason, the authors of the comics are included in the universe.
    • Perhaps not every one, but definitely most of the superhero comics.
      • For a while, nearly the entire site was part of the "Drunk Duck Civil War", which was, obviously, a parody of Marvel's Civil War. However, the most notable example of this trope is present in Fightsplosion, a tournament hosted on the forums where contestants battle it out in duels and the winner is chosen by reader vote. The matches are chronicled here: http://www.drunkduck.com/Fightsplosion_Legends/index.php
  • Rival webcomic hosting site Comic Genesis has been known to randomly generate "Jams" on its forums. These Jams feature forum regulars as the characters, and generally consist of one of the forumites posting a part of the "story" (which rarely proves consistent or understandable), followed by a different forumite, and so on and so forth. The process is very casual and has produced a good portion of the in-jokes of the forums there. The Jams are chronicled (occasionally) at http://spacejams.comicgenesis.com/
  • The recent Crossover Wars linked a large number of otherwise entirely unrelated webcomics together. How much impact on functioning Canon the Wars had varies from comic to comic, however, so they can be considered part of the same multiverse only in the throes of WMG.
    • Then you have the spinoff The Crossoverlord which has tons of cameos from other webcomics all over the place. The comic's website even has a list of separate realities connecting various comics together (link). Like Crossover Wars, how the affect the various comics' canons varies.
  • The Vefurrin and Hero universe — the main character of the former, Ganymar, appears as a significant side character in the latter, and Word of God says that the two tales indeed take place in the same universe. Of course, given the seemingly strange and shifting nature of said universe, that really wouldn't be much of a stretch in any case.
  • The Dieselverse: R. Stevens' Diesel Sweeties and Lolbots. However, Word of God (via e-mail correspondance) considers the latter strip's characters to either be younger, or the strip itself to be Alternate Continuity. (Also, the strips' Red Robot uses the same chassis as Exploding Dog's Red Robot).
  • The Jet Dream Universe: The "TG Comics" titles Jet Dream, It's Cookie!, and My Jet Dream Romance take place in the same universe and share the same fictional publisher.
  • The Shineverse comprises both the main comic and its self-contained spinoff The Eagle of Hermes.
  • All Over The House shares a multiverse with The Life Of Nob T Mouse. In addition, The Life Of Nob T Mouse has its own internal multiverse, because Nob Mouse and friends redefined time using magic, creating "quantum history", so now every point in time is a separate universe.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
Albertosaurus The Tropesaurus Since: Jan, 2001
The Tropesaurus
Nov 6th 2012 at 4:33:13 AM •••

I removed this example:

In That Hideous Strength, Merlin is stated to be of the line of Numenor (spelt "Numinor" in this book), but to me this appears to be a reference to a friend's work for the sake of making a reference. Lewis' Field of Arbol (AKA our solar system) and Tolkien's Middle-Earth cosmology do not seem to share any meaninful link, and Tolkien reportedly hated the book in question.

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ThatHuman someone Since: Jun, 2010
someone
Jun 1st 2012 at 10:43:00 AM •••

Removed some examples:

Film:

  • The Transformers Film Series and G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra are canonically in the same universe, with there being suggestions that much of the advanced Joe tech came from studying Megatron's frozen body. In addition, Ratchet and Ironhide's vehicle forms can be seen in the Paris sequence. On the other hand, the Transformers movies don't suggest anything about GI Joe, also that they make mention to the actual Presidents of the time periods of the films (George W Bush and Barack Obama) while GI Joe has their own President.
    • G.I. Joe is stated to be "In the near future," meaning that, by the time of the movie, the Autobot/Decepticon War could have ended/left Earth. In that case, one can believe that the futuristic technology of the film is an improvement over Sector 7 and NEST's current tech.
    • It's also impied that The Mummy Trilogy take place in the same Universe (Brendan Frazer says his character from G.I. Joe is a descendent of his character from the Mummy). This would also mean that The Scorpion King is set in this universe.
    • Travis Van Winkle plays the character Trent De Marco in both Transformers and Michael Bay's Friday the 13th remake, Trent's last name isn't specified in the Transformers movie but it is in the novelization.

Live Action TV

  • A pretty large number of works have been proposed as taking place in a shared universe named after Tommy Westphall. A grid and an explanation for every connection can be found here. The idea revolves around a particular actor who has played the same police officer in over a dozen different shows (ranging from the more realistic Homicide Life On The Street to the surreal The X Files), and those shows having a crossover with shows he didn't appear in, and there are some wild implications if you trace it back to the infamous ending to St Elsewhere.

  • Community, Cougar Town, and Scrubs exist in one of the more convoluted examples of this trope.
    • Abed and Ted Buckland both show up in the Cougar Town Season 2 finale. Laurie and Travis are present for the events of the second paintball war in Community. So far a pretty straight forward example of Shared Universe with Character Overlap. Now things get complicated. Kirsten has previously mentioned watching the first season of Community on DVD. Abed has also mentioned watching Cougar Town, and has compared people he knows to the actors on Scrubs. To sum up, all three series exist in a quantum state of being both in each other continuity and at the same time are fictional series. Wrinkled your brain yet?
      • Even better, Abed appears as an extra in Cougar Town, playing some guy in the background. So Community!Abed is an actor playing some random guy (let's call him "Chad") in Cougar Town, which is fictitious to Abed.
  • The Montecito appears on both Las Vegas and Heroes, and the former has had a Crossover with Crossing Jordan, which logically means that all three shows exist in the same universe (and two of them are created by the same person)... except that in the Heroes episode "Jump, Push, Fall" Gretchen suggests the titular theory to Claire and tells her that she saw it on an episode of Crossing Jordan (presumably the episode called... "Jump, Push, Fall"). So is Crossing Jordan an actual TV show in this instance, or a reality series, or what? *smashcut* TO BE CONTINUED...

"Multi-Type"

  • The various Transformers cartoons and comics were generally regarded as being in separate continuities...until Simon Furman came along. His writing in the comics claimed that the universes were parallel to each other, with Primus and Unicron existing as single entities in all of them simultaneously.
  • Speaking of Transformers, it's very common for both that series and GiJoe to exist in the same universe depending on the series. Transformers had even had crossovers with Marvel Comics, as Marvel used to publish the Transformers comic series. Marvel also used to publish Godzilla comics as well, which leads to a whole load of fan favorites occupying the same Earth in one continuity.
  • There's a bounty hunter named Death's Head who first appeared in Transformers comics, then ended up being stranded in the Time Vortex where he met the Seventh Doctor, who subsequently dumped him in the mainstream Marvel universe. Let's chalk it up to the multiverse and save us the headache. (Or MST3K Mantra it)
    • What this causes is that you could do a Doctor Who/Army of Darkness crossover. Or, since The Doctor and Rose appeared for one, entirely pointless besides for getting in on the insanity, panel of Buffy Season 8, a Buffy/Army of Darkness crossover. How? Army of Darkness crossed over into Marvel Zombies. Marvel Zombies is part of the Marvel Multiverse. Because of the Death's Head thing, the Whoniverse is also part of this multiverse, as is Army of Darkness due to the MZ thing. Because of that one panel, the Buffyverse is either a part of the Whoniverse or is a part of that same multiverse?
    • In an episode of Power Rangers Lost Galaxy, a planet is shown being destroyed, as its location is "ten zero eleven zero zero by zero two from galactic zero in the constellation of Kasterborous", the exact location of Gallifrey......

See Trope Repair Shop thread.

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ThatHuman someone Since: Jun, 2010
someone
Jun 1st 2012 at 10:39:17 AM •••

I edited the Marvel and DC example into separate bullet points, since those are separate but similar examples. Plus, both publishers each own more than one Shared Universe. It's not just their main universes, I think. Well, I don't think my edit was that good, though.

something
IonutRO Since: May, 2012
May 29th 2012 at 11:26:45 AM •••

"Fable, Frogger, Harry Potter, Mortal Kombat and The Elder Scrolls share the same universe."

  • What. Ok, can someone elaborate?

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