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HelljmprRookie Since: Jun, 2016
Apr 11th 2021 at 12:36:55 AM •••

I'm thinking of adding in the "Save Zeal" outcome from the "Chrono Trigger+" romhack. As the label itself suggests, unlike the empty-feeling of the "Developer Ending" that CT normally does if one defeats Lavos in the Ocean Palace (It's normally supposed to be a "Hopeless Boss F Ight" and as such, losing is considered normal in that event, though it can be undone with a great amount of both Level Grinding and "Crazy Prepared". I managed to do so after grinding to level 85 with Crono, Marle and Lucca. (Lucca is VERY helpful in mitigating damage via her Protect ability taken from both the Needle and Destruction Rain attack that is absurdly raised in order to provide the "Hopeless Boss Fight" effect from normally occuring)

I think it would fit very well in this trope section, since it even manages to make freakin' Queen Zeal of ALL PEOPLE "Take a lesson in kindness" after defeating Lavos in the Ocean Palace.

My only real question is if I should add it in the "Fan Works" or "Video Games" section, i'm thinking the "Fan Works" would be more suitable, since it IS a romhack after all, and as such I can understand it fitting there more.

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naal2 Since: Nov, 2011
Feb 18th 2014 at 6:55:32 PM •••

When somebody wants to Set Right What Once Went Wrong, but isn't time traveling, does this trope still apply?

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Feb 18th 2014 at 11:33:08 PM •••

I can't think of a way to do so, really.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
Apr 15th 2013 at 7:16:29 PM •••

Too little context for this example to stay as is:

  • Subverted numerous times in the Prince of Persia series. In fact, these subversions are the driving force for much of the Prince's story.

blu28 Since: Nov, 2017
Mar 4th 2013 at 10:47:57 AM •••

I see this trope as being a little more far reaching. It really just requires some foreknowledge, but there is often some limit to the knowledge or something else that makes the task more difficult. So, in essence just as in Quantum leap the actual wrong is unknown ahead of time, so too "Person of Interest" fits this trope. In Po I, there is essentially a prediction about a crime, with only the SSN of a person known ahead of time. It is not even known if that person is the victim or perp.

AeolosSakya Since: Dec, 2010
Mar 29th 2012 at 5:10:45 PM •••

Danny Phantom example. Does it really count? I mean, in the end they said that his older evil self "exists out of time", implying that Danny would no longer become him, but he'd still exist.

northrup Since: Jun, 2011
Jun 8th 2011 at 10:35:00 PM •••

In the film Wishmaster, the antagonist (the Djinn) is released because a drunk dock worker dropped the crate holding the crystal that he was trapped inside, which broke the crystal. The protagonist, Alex, after having made two wishes and seeing the wishes of others going horribly, horribly wrong, wishes that the dock worker in question didn't get drunk before going to work that day, thus preventing the crystal from being shattered and, consequently, averting pretty much the entire plot, keeping the Djinn trapped.

Even though Alex didn't go back in time physically, it seems like this would still be Set[ting] Right What Once Went Wrong.

Sarelm Since: Dec, 1969
May 2nd 2011 at 8:15:06 PM •••

I'm not sure why this is missing. Or if it belongs in the "Set wrong what once went right" trope. But in World of Warcraft, almost the instances in the Caverns of Time subvert this. Where the infinite dragonflight are trying to "Set right what once went wrong" by killing off Arthas, or Medivh and the player's job is to stop them by... Saving the "villain". Rescuing Thrall is.. Harder to determine where the alignment goes. Especially when you do this as an alliance character.

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