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bejjinks bejjinks Since: Jul, 2014
bejjinks
Jul 9th 2014 at 11:10:43 AM •••

I don't think every mention of a religion should be included in this trope. For example, Shari Lewis celebrating Chanukah is not intended to promote Judaism but merely to inform people what Judaism is. I think to fit in this trope, the example has to at least slightly imply that "you should think this way too." Either that or the example should be written specifically to a target audience that already "thinks this way." E.g. I'm willing to accept Chronicles of Narnia in this trope even though it's not preachy in any manner but because it speaks of concepts that it assumes the reader already accepts as given.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Jul 10th 2014 at 12:59:57 AM •••

The trope is not that narrow. It can cover religious propaganda but also purely educatory material.

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batgirl1 Her Majesty Since: Jan, 2001
Her Majesty
Oct 10th 2010 at 2:54:20 PM •••

Okay, so we have a new name for the genre. Should Religious Edutainment be launched as a sub-genre, or should we leave it be, for now? Because I still think it's a slightly different concept, but others may disagree.

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SomeSortOfTroper Since: Jan, 2001
Dec 4th 2010 at 8:03:25 AM •••

No. Everybody voted strongly against this name. Presumably because they felt Edutainment was more specific to the actual trope at hand and then you just changed it to whatever you thought of.

batgirl1 Since: Jan, 2001
Dec 4th 2010 at 11:37:30 AM •••

Woah, woah, wait. What? I didn't change the name. At all. I voted for Religious Edutainment, but someone launched it as Religious Entertainment. So, since I didn't know what else to do, I just figured I'd shrug and go with it. HENCE MY BRINGING UP RELIGIOUS EDUTAINMENT AS A SUB TROPE.

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SomeSortOfTroper Since: Jan, 2001
Oct 10th 2010 at 11:30:44 AM •••

OK, we're going for a different name and this one can go through with the cut.

Madrugada MOD Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001
Zzzzzzzzzz
Sep 29th 2010 at 11:25:19 AM •••

The page is about a genre that has clearly existed for fifty years at least. It has more than three examples and a good write-up. "Didn't go through YKTTW" alone is not grounds for cutting, nor is "Didn't follow Three Rules Of Three." The only thing wrong with it is that it's got a lousy name. That's not grounds for cutting a page either. It is in the TRS for a new name right now.

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SomeSortOfTroper Since: Jan, 2001
Sep 29th 2010 at 11:34:23 AM •••

Yep. I'm also in support of the name as a redirect anyway since I personally think that the portmanteau is apt. Maybe I could be convinced otherwise, that's the benefit of long forum discussions which take longer than cut list discussions. The timing of this being on the cut list is all wrong and our current principle is that cut listing is for when you know you want a cut.

batgirl1 Since: Jan, 2001
Sep 29th 2010 at 8:46:39 PM •••

For the record, the only Rule of Three broken was "3 days". I'm a very impatient woman, which occasionally bites me in the butt.

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