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Lyner Since: Sep, 2014
Feb 17th 2022 at 3:29:24 PM •••

Is there such a thing as “partial truth in television”? Because it is established that uncertainty about one’s sexuality is a very legitimate symptom of rape trauma. Just look up rape trauma syndrome. That doesn’t mean you actually switch, but you could become unsure.

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DesignatedNPC Since: May, 2015
Feb 17th 2023 at 8:54:41 AM •••

No, since the trope is specifically "Person with A sexuality is raped, becomes B sexuality as direct result." Uncertainty about one's sexuality following a rape isn't the same thing as literally having your sexual orientation changed as if a card's been flipped over.

It seems similar to the rule about "partial subversions": Either it is a subversion or it is not a subversion, there's no "partial" about it.

TwinBird Dunkies addict Since: Oct, 2009
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Jan 12th 2012 at 12:33:47 AM •••

I think we should have a policy that Real Life examples either have to be the victim's own belief, or a scholarly belief from some point in time, since this can be an ugly, ugly trope. At the very least, the Anne Heche example I'm killing with fire.

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Abodos Since: Oct, 2009
cynwakefield Since: Dec, 1969
Aug 21st 2010 at 8:41:04 PM •••

  • Truth in Television for a small subsection of women who are too traumatized to form sexual relationships with any men and accept that lesbian sex is much better than nothing, if not their personal preference.
    • It doesn't even have to be rape. A fair number of women end up switching sides after they are hurt by one too many men.

Um, people DO NOT "switch sides." A bisexual woman who previously preferred men might well give up on them, but it takes serious trauma to get someone to make a lifelong commitment to non-primary-choice relations. This is why reparative therapy is recognized by the AMA as dangerous quackery.

The original note commented on is Truth in Television, as anyone can force themselves into non-choice relations. But the idea that people can decide their sexual orientation is long discredited.

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TwinBird Since: Oct, 2009
Mar 10th 2011 at 11:05:08 AM •••

I've removed this example completely. I'm seeing a big flashing sign reading "HANDLE WITH CARE," and a general example saying "this actually happens guys, not 'these people think it happens,' it really does" is throwing up a couple billion red flags.

My posts make considerably more sense read in the voice of John Ratzenberger.
NanoMoose (Edited uphill both ways)
Nov 3rd 2010 at 9:04:25 PM •••

Uh...with the Fallout example, I never got the impression that Corporal Betsy 'turned lesbian' when Cook-Cook raped her; just that she was always gay and reacted to the trauma by hitting on every woman who came near her.

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SomeGuy Since: Jan, 2001
NanoMoose (Edited uphill both ways)
Nov 7th 2010 at 10:36:02 PM •••

Yes, thank you, but I was wondering if the one who added that example had come across any evidence otherwise that I missed. Guess not.

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