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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 23rd 2021 at 7:19:32 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Makes No Sense, started by EternalSeptember on Nov 14th 2010 at 11:07:04 AM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 22nd 2021 at 6:46:02 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Seems to be two tropes in one., started by DragonQuestZ on Jan 1st 2012 at 6:12:20 AM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper Since: Jan, 2001
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Dec 14th 2011 at 1:55:12 PM •••

The quote seems to be against the mainstream more than just pointing out subjectivity.

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battosaijoe Since: Jan, 2010
Dec 14th 2011 at 2:11:11 PM •••

I disagree. I think it's saying that the game that sells the most is not necessarily the best game out there. Just because a game is the best selling doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad game. It more often than not is an excellent game in it's own right. But that doesn't necessarily make it the BEST game, just because it sold the most.

movie007 Since: Jan, 2001
Dec 14th 2011 at 3:07:13 PM •••

It seems to be a bit better than the other quote, though. Since this page does seem to attract Fan Haters, we should keep a close watch on it. I am in favour, though, of finding a better quote - to reflect that popularity doesn't indicate the quality of the work, one way or the other.

DragonQuestZ Since: Jan, 2001
Dec 14th 2011 at 9:18:00 PM •••

^^ Hating to think that it came to that point is NOT the same as merely pointing out they are not the same.

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battosaijoe Since: Jan, 2010
Dec 15th 2011 at 1:18:26 AM •••

He's got a point though, and it has nothing to do with It's Popular, So It Sucks!. Games with strong multiplayer sell better than single-player games nowadays due to the social and competitive elements inherent in multiplayer. Does that make it an inherently better game than single-player games? Nope. It just means that it sold better. Too many people nowadays immediately think that the game that sold the best is naturally the best game out there. Plus, he never used the word hate or any derivative thereof. He's stating his hope that games will continue to be weighed and measured based on the experiences they provide rather than the number of copies sold, and if you ask me, that's a great thing to hope for, as it gives little games like Limbo and Castle Crashers their say and stock against juggernauts like Modern Warfare and Battlefield.

However, I wouldn't say no to a better quote.

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DragonQuestZ Since: Jan, 2001
Dec 15th 2011 at 4:10:39 PM •••

Well if that was the context of his statement, then either the context should be added, or we need another quote where the context is more clear.

The way it looks right now could just as easily be interpreted as "Letting the masses decide what is good? HEAVEN FORBID!"

EDIT: Also, that still doesn't say quality by popular vote can't apply. Gamers buying Call Of Duty for the multiplayer could mean they are voting just the multiplayer to be the best in games right now, not the entire game.

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battosaijoe Since: Jan, 2010
Dec 16th 2011 at 2:11:20 AM •••

I disagree. I think that it's fairly clear in it's definition, and I've actually been going around asking people what they think of that quote to check and see if my belief holds. It has thus far. Again, I won't say no to a better quote, but I honestly think you're taking that quote far out of context and stretching it far beyond what the meaning is.

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