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IndirectActiveTransport Since: Nov, 2010
Jul 24th 2014 at 8:11:13 AM •••

So, looking through discussion proves I was not just seeing things, centerpiece used to be called "The Champion". Now, as nice as it is to include stables that did not have a central champion, such as The Nexus, I have to wonder if we haven't changed the definition too much. Are you really a power stable without a champion?

Wrestling groups can come together for a large variety of reasons, such as the self defeating goal of destroying the company that pays them (The Flood), beating up a particular target (Decade against "rookies", Thuggin and Buggin against "white people"), by virtue of being a family (OI4K), promoting something (Christopher Street Connection being openly gay) but are those stables really power stables if they aren't about one man getting the championship? Groups like, say, Triple H's Evolution, tend to fracture when their heir apparent wins or comes close to winning the championship. Christopher Daniel's prophecy kept chugging along when Xavier won the World Championship because that wasn't the long term goal. Daniels did not mind someone else holding the title so long as they helped him destroy Ring of Honor.

MithrandirOlorin Since: May, 2012
Nov 30th 2012 at 12:38:15 PM •••

The nWo did not truly have an Heir Apparent, Hogan intended to live forever. I feel The Outsiders together served the Enforcer role.

The nWo is only the only Power-stable to get large enough to genuinely have Mooks.

Before it broke off into a rival origination, I feel the Wolf Pack effectively served as a Quirky Mini Boss Squad, the core 3 being The Outsides + Syxx, but for events like the 97 War Games individuals like Bagwell or Konan could be added. Said Squad could be viewed as Collectively the Enforcer.

Savage in 97 had both Enforcer and heir Apparent qualities, I remember building up to Halloween Havoc that year Hogan, Savage and Bischof where basically treated as the big 3. His inevitably going The Starscream after Starcade would be consistent with being the Heir Aparent.

After the Split I suppose Bret does have Heir Apparent status, so my first comment here was off, but I still don't see Nash has ever a true heir Apparent.. I'd also say The Disciple (Brutus The Barber Beefcake, aka The Butcher) effectively becomes an Enforcer, but seems more Muscle since he doesn't actually compete, however The Giant is there serving that purpose.

There is no role distinction here for a Female Valet, who doesn't really serve as a Manager but doesn't Wrestle either. She'd basically be this Trope's equivalent to The Dark Chick.

A group of 3 I feel can still be treated as this with anyone one of the main 4 dropped. Even The Centerpiece could be dropped if the group doesn't have Main Event status and so isn't competing for the main title. Though in that case the Centerpiece and heir Apparent are merged I guess, since the leader seeks the mid Card title.

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IndirectActiveTransport Since: Nov, 2010
Mar 19th 2014 at 11:56:51 AM •••

HUSTLE's monster army was large enough to have mooks too, if they count as a power stable.

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MithrandirOlorin Since: May, 2012
May 18th 2013 at 5:14:50 PM •••

DX I feel should be corrected. It always felt to me more like Chyna was The Enforcer to Triple H and Rick Rude the Enforcer to Shawn Michaels.

"always the only person that the Centerpiece truly trusts" is the main aspect that makes me Chyna not the Outlaws was The Enforcer of post WM 14 DX.

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Cider Since: May, 2009
Sep 24th 2013 at 1:37:15 PM •••

Well, sure, I guess that works for Chyna and Triple H but I am not so sure about Shawn Michaels and Rick Rude.

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MithrandirOlorin Since: May, 2012
May 18th 2013 at 5:34:21 PM •••

I think 2 new positions should be added.

The Valet: One of those pretty women who's not an actual wrestler, or a proper manager, just existed to use her feminine wiles as a distraction. Currently all such examples of this are classified under Hanger Ons, but to me it's common enough and frequent enough to be a role all on it's own. A female Wrestler could conceivably have a Rare Male Example.

The Boss: When the real mastermind of a Stable (or one of them) is the won of the company or some high ranking executive. Most famously Vince Mc Mahn (The Corporation) and Eric Bischof (The nWo). Currently these are classified as Managers, but it's again a distinct role all on it's own. And often do have a manager in a separate position.

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Cider Since: May, 2009
Sep 24th 2013 at 1:33:55 PM •••

Maybe you should take it to the Trope Talk section of the forums so more people can discuss it but sounds good to me.

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JT706 Since: Jan, 2001
Jun 22nd 2010 at 3:44:30 PM •••

The NXT Rookies/The Nexus

The angle hasn't developed enough to add an entry proper, so I'm putting a reminder here to come back to this stable once it's fleshed out a little more. Here's where it stands so far: The Champion: Wade Barrett. The Heir Apparent: Would have been Daniel Bryan, if not for him being fired under dubious circumstances. (The door's still open for him to return in the future, though- by all evidence, WWE was reluctant to let him go and only did so due to pressure from outside forces.) Now, it seems like it might be Justin Gabriel- his 450 splash has put the exclaimation point on each of NXT's beatdowns thus far. The Manager: Vince Mc Mahon revealed himself to be this, only for the group to immediately turn on him, too. Now, Raw's new "anonymous GM" will likely be this. The Enforcer/Muscle/Hanger-on: Heath Slater, Skip Sheffield, Daniel Otunga, Michael Tarver, and Darren Young will all likely fall into one of these roles as the weeks go on.

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58.168.106.152 Since: Dec, 1969
Jul 7th 2010 at 5:03:37 AM •••

Bryan was more of an Enforcer than an Heir Apparent, really.

JT706 Since: Jan, 2001
Jul 25th 2010 at 12:14:38 AM •••

When I first came up with this idea, I kinda kicked myself for adding it to the discussion page instead of a to-do list. One month later, however, we're no closer to having any of these characters develop beyond "ambitious heel". So, I'm glad now that I put this entry here, in the hopes that someone can help put some kind of order to this entry. Wiki Magic, don't let me down!

58.168.106.152 Since: Dec, 1969
Jul 7th 2010 at 5:05:00 AM •••

Does anyone else feel that "The Champion" should be renamed to "The Leader"?

Holding the World Title or any kind of belt isn't necessarily a pre-requisite of leading a stable: Hell, some stable leaders weren't even active wrestlers at all.

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