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JustCause Since: May, 2013
Dec 9th 2014 at 1:52:56 PM •••

I think this trope needs to be renamed - people seem to not be getting the point of the trope and half the examples are bad/false friends rather than that one evil yet loyal friend.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Dec 10th 2014 at 12:12:43 AM •••

That's one going to be a hard sell with the 1600+ inbounds.

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doomsday524 Since: Nov, 2010
Mar 21st 2012 at 2:10:48 PM •••

I don't think I would say this character is necessarily a cynic. The Misa example, for instance.

alexfence Since: Dec, 2010
Dec 27th 2011 at 8:51:04 PM •••

I don't think Vimes and Vetinari are examples. For one they aren't friends, Vetinari is Vimes's boss, and Vetinari doesn't really display any of the characteristics of this trope.

98.247.136.82 Since: Dec, 1969
Apr 26th 2011 at 4:08:38 PM •••

None of the examples under "Western Animation" seem to fit this trope; while I'm not entirely familiar with the series in question, they seem to be describing bad friends, rather than loyal evil friends.

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