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Metaphone Since: Mar, 2020
Mar 17th 2020 at 9:35:37 AM •••

Changing the example, as it seems to be negatively motivated, and doesn't apply. Jesus spoke to an audience that held negative convictions about Samaritans, using a Samaritan to invert and challenge these convictions. Please, no more personally motivated examples. Thank you.

PSColdFire Since: Jul, 2013
Jun 22nd 2019 at 11:09:56 AM •••

Just to make sure, what is the difference between Noble Bigot and Politically Incorrect Hero?

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I had the impression that:

Edited by PSColdFire
MiracleQuartz Since: May, 2014
Nov 9th 2014 at 7:13:06 AM •••

Hmm, I'm having a bit of a problem with the page quote, I hope this doesn't turn into a religious discussion. But the thing is, the page quote seems to be explained through the literature section.

So there are three things thats wrong with it:

One: it doesn't really show Noble Bigot. Yes, it's missing in context, but I feel like it's a different trope.

Two: it seems biased

Three: people who truly know the story, might get offended by it.

proudeagle Since: Aug, 2012
Oct 14th 2013 at 1:34:10 PM •••

"Particularly strange to modern people is that several of those founders who owned slaves still opposed slavery. Thomas Jefferson and John Jay are notable examples. They often justified this by saying that slavery had been forced on them by British economic policies; while this is a remarkably self-serving view, they did at least acknowledge that slavery was wrong."

Shouldn't this mention the blatant self-serving hypocrisy rather than link to 'fairforitsday'?

Shendal Since: Jan, 2001
Jan 30th 2012 at 4:30:38 PM •••

The Mass Effect example is getting pretty out of hand. As the series unfolds it's becoming more and more apparent that this trope is one facet of the whole reason for the series, with Commander Shepard being a nexus point bringing together multiple disparate groups who must learn to work together for the good of all. We might want to think about paring the example down a bit, summarizing it, just so that we don't end up listing everything in the whole series.

Chapel717 Since: Sep, 2011
Oct 9th 2011 at 3:39:04 PM •••

Does this trope require that the trait be portrayed as negative, or can it be used unintentionally? (In the latter case, is it always YMMV?)

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