Discussion Main / NoSwastikas

I'd like to propose adding a note to this page that aversions shouldn't be listed.

My reasoning: the trope is specifically about swastikas (or whatever other symbol applies) not appearing in a context where they would be expected. If they show up in a context where they could reasonably be expected to appear (say, a movie set in Berlin in 1943), that's People Sit on Chairs, and shouldn't be listed. If they show up in a context where one of their other meanings is intended, that's Non Nazi Swastika. If they show up without any context, that's . . . well, I'm not really sure what trope it would be, but I don't think it would be this. Gratuitous Nazis, maybe? If they don't show up in a context where they plausibly could but probably wouldn't (say, a work set in the Pacific Theater), then it's not even applicable.

(This is inspired by a discussion a few years back regarding Empire of the Sun, where the reasons for keeping it listed on that page got increasingly convoluted. It was eventually removed, but the thought's been at the back of my mind ever since.) (Edited to add: 2012?! Damn, I must be obsessed.)

Is there a similar trope for other symbols getting this treatment, or is it safe to count the Confederate battle flag as this? Considering the reactionary reaction to the Charleston shooting, the Stars and Bars are starting to get this treatment.

I'm curious about the alleged recent development that declared video games an artform and thus exempt from the restriction. As recently as Wolfenstein: The New Order, developers were saying video games were still legally classified as toys. I know this isn't Wikipedia, but could somebody throw a citation on there so it's clear we're not just making shit up?

New to this editing stuff. Normally, I just waste hours reading... I think that this trope is kinda toyed with in a Dragon Ball movie. A load of DB villains are brought back to life, along with an army that has almost-swastikas and a leading man with distinctive facial hair. Later on, the two that defeat the almost-Nazis say that they met someone 'recognizable' but don't mention any names. Putting this here because I'm too scared to put it on the main page incase I'm talking out of my ass.

If we need a new image, I have a suggestion.

Screencap from World of Tanks, Siegfried Line, French-German border, where the buildings should have swastika banners, but instead have Imperial German colours.

So how to deal with anime that deal with Buddhist temples? For instance, there's a scene in the Tamayura OVA, where Takehara's Kakae temple is clearly visible, and there is a photo taken of two girls who stand before a shrine with huge swastikas visible on-screen.

I noticed quite a few pages saying something about how in the Earth's Mightiest Heroes universe, the Allies must not have achieved total victory in World War II because HYDRA still exists in the 21st century. Did they ever say whether or not the Allies at least got to break up the countries HYDRA conquered? I get the impression that the Allies did break the empire apart.

Can anyone confirm that Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes Wod Of God statement? I was chatting with someone about this and he asked if I could provide a link to a source. Thanks in advance.

The name "swastika" comes from Sanskrit; the swastika, facing either clockwise or counterclockwise but aligned as a square rather than the Nazi diamond, is a holy symbol in Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism (it's even on their flag), reintroduced to Europe in the 19th century as a good-luck charm. It existed in Northern Europe as a pre-Christian sun wheel, which was adopted by a number of ariosophist groups as emblems. It was through these groups that Hitler was believed to have been exposed to the symbol. It appears in numerous other cultures as well; in Japan, the swastika is known as "manji", and it's a thunder symbol among the American Indians native to the Southwest (the Arizona Department of Transportation marked its highway signs with a swastika superimposed on an arrowhead until the 1930s, and the United States 45th Infantry Division wore a gold swastika on a red field in World War I). The swastika's prominence in European popular culture prior to the World War II, though, was not due to Native American influences but due to philology, which introduced the swastika to Europe from India as an ancient Indo-European good-luck charm. See this Wikipedia article, and note that even the diamond configuration of the swastika is not original to the Nazis. In heraldry, a small charge similar to the general known symbol only with stubby arms is known as a "fyfolt", and is prominent on the Chamberlayne shield. In Latvia, in early 20th century swastika was even used as a marking for Latvian Air Force, as well as on some military insignias, due to symbols wide use as protection symbol before Christianity - it was called "ugunskrusts", the fire cross, if right-facing, or "perkonkrusts", the thunder cross, if facing left. Symbol was largely dropped after WWII and annexation of Latvia by USSR

Just removed this.