So, I understand that this site often plays fast and loose with the definitions of existing concepts of fiction and academic critique, but I feel like some of the contributors to this and other pages for established literary genres are a little bit unclear as to what actually makes some of these genres. When editing, please keep in mind that a "genre" as it applies to things like New Weird or Magical Realism is based less on the tropes or set dressing of a work and more in how its creators are connected and influenced one another.
A work of speculative fiction that does not neatly fit into established genre categories and takes a more meta-fictional approach to its medium is not inherently a work of New Weird fiction if its creator was not involved with or influenced by other creators involved in the New Weird movement.
Hide / Show RepliesI know I'm resurrecting an ancient thought here, but I feel it's worth discussing.
Under normal circumstances I'd agree with you, but given the fact that New Weird categorizes more as a metagenre than a typical one, and is defined primarily by the refusal to hold to convention within a set of true genres, I don't think this way of thinking applies. Anyone who writes speculative fiction without regard to convention will fall under the New Weird label by definition, regardless of influence and involvement.
In fact, one could argue that the progression of influence from other New Weird authors would eventually collapse into a true genre as you describe, when that train of influence eventually creates exactly the kind of stable conventional approaches that New Weird explicitly seeks to escape from.
Adding to TDeHaven's point, does One Piece really still need be omitted for not having a known connection to the core literary movement? Especially given that some of the other examples don't exactly show clear signs of taking direct influence from said movement either? It's also stated on the main page that this genre doesn't need to Follow the Leader, even in regard to the seminal works of New Weird.
Edited by ElectroKrakenDoes Everything Everywhere All at Once belong in this category?
grimdark is for losers Hide / Show Repliesid say yes
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So, From what I understand from research on this topic, New Weird is a sort of 21st century revival of "Weird Fiction" (hence the "new"), but this doesn't seem to be stated anywhere on this page. Should I add this as a footnote, or is this not relevant?
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