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PikaGal444 (they/them) Since: May, 2012
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Apr 21st 2023 at 1:12:35 AM •••

Once some space opens up in the Trope Repair Shop, it may be for the best to retire the term "muggle" from this and other trope pages in light of J.K. Rowling's vocal transphobia, like with how the the founders of the real life sport based on Quidditch are now calling it Quadball instead. I've read through past and archived discussions on this page and saw "mundane" as a proposed term that could be used as a subsitute, especially since the concept pre-dates Harry Potter.

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NimmerStill Since: Mar, 2012
Sep 1st 2012 at 1:48:59 PM •••

Muggles are often FlatEarthAtheists as well, sometimes by definition if the special power of the main characters is mainly knowing what's really going on, as in Men In Black, Torchwood, some aspects of Buffy. Should that be put in?

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Kairu Since: Oct, 2010
Dec 9th 2011 at 10:26:14 AM •••

Jeez, that real-life section is depressing. Aren't there any sane people who think of themselves as being better and more special than others for having interest in interesting fiction instead of, say, reality shows and sports?

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CrypticMirror Since: Jan, 2001
Dec 9th 2011 at 1:03:02 PM •••

Yeah, I'd support killing it. Those aren't really examples anyway.

CJF Mr. Since: Oct, 2010
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Aug 10th 2011 at 2:22:21 PM •••

whats the difference between Muggles and Mortals

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GazBevMoo Since: Dec, 1969
Nov 19th 2011 at 5:28:20 PM •••

The non ordinary people aren't always immortal, if they are, like in Wizards Of Waverly Place then the non wizards are called mortals.

genkracken Since: Oct, 2010
Dec 8th 2010 at 6:43:30 PM •••

genkracken: I'm going to add a re-direct for "Mundane(s)" to this page, as the pre-Harry-Potter concept of "mundanes" seems to be the same thing. I see Dr Dedman mentioned something similar in the archived discussion, and Shiralee seems only to have objected to the idea of flat-out renaming the trope from Muggles to Mundanes.

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