Macho Camp and Manly Gay are two completely different tropes. In fact, they are a result of the Hard Gay split, which was a trope that held these two different concepts and was utterly confusing because of it.
Why do you think that these examples fit in Manly Gay? Are you not understanding the difference between the two?
Honestly we need to take the gay out of this trope. A camp macho character doesn't have to be gay. Hell, several of the examples on this thread aren't even gay.
The point is that it is a gay stereotype. You can be a gay stereotype without being gay.
If you fit the stereotype, you fit the trope, regardless of your... tastes.
Edited by TropeEater Evil is my favorite color.Added as a result of the Hard Gay split. See: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1296453947043207900&page=4#77
I think this page should be erased as the examples here will fit perfectly in the article Manly Gay or instead be replaced with the cases of extremely muscular mans who aren't gay but may appear because of their muscles, but... i don't know how.
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